On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Richard Z <r...@linux-m68k.org> [01-05-14 08:57]:
>  [...]
> > unless you try to do something like multiple email providers for one
> > user which is very easy to do with anything but sendmail/postfix/exim. 
> > I have done this on all three and got tired, after every system upgrade
> > some incompatible change breaks it and even the most basic smarthost
> > configuration stops working, not to mention the multiple accounts which
> > always required some configuration acrobatics.
> 
> I have been doing this for *many* years with miniminal intervention across
> many versions of linux, mostly SuSE/openSUSE w/o problems using
> postfix/fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin.  Postfix and/or most other mta's
> also provide the use of rbl's to help minimize spam.

your or mine spam filter is not the problem. The problem is when you pipe email 
through a local postfix/exim MTA it will attach received headers with the 
domain 
name and IP, quite often a domain name and IPs that is not even valid. 
The mail than goes through the smarthost - and this combination easily looks 
suspicious to certain stupid spam filters of the destination provider.

Because the problem is not with your/mine system but the stupidity of the spam
filter on the other end it is not easy to fix.

It may be that I was hit a bit more often by stupid spam filters because I am 
using linux-m68k.org domain as from addr but routing mail through gmail.. I will
never know because such providers never answer questions, they just silently
discarded my mail.

> In November last I had to replace my server box witch intailed a four
> version upgrade/jump and all I really did to the mail system was clean up
> /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/access of stale and mostly commented
> out ancient text from prior *experiments*.
> 
>  [...]
> > I would not touch sendmail/postfix/exim again unless I want to run a
> > real public mail server.
> 
> Somewhere you have encountered major weird problems or I have experienced
> the "luck of a drunken Irishman" (which I may be).

perhaps I was doing things at the wrong time, when I first messed with sendmail
something as simple as smarthost support was an unusual thing to do.

But the only easy solution that I can see to prevent the "suspicious MTA 
headers" 
problem is avoiding the local MTA hop.

Richard

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