On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:02:12PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > I don't know why he wants to do it; not my problem.
Yes, actually, you do: On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:17:26PM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > Partly also to limit the needed customizations and header > decipherment work to integrate new lists into people's filters. And > to make the mailbox of the 'occaisional' subscriber easier to manage > until they unsubscribe. And because some people do not have mail > filters, or are trapped in cloud based systems, etc. And if he got his way, it might very well be your problem, if it's the sort of thing that you're inclined to be bothered by. But this philosophy favors the casual list member over the people who read the list regularly. The community should cater to its regular members, not people whose interest and participation are fleeting... So this approach is wrong. The Mutt community, by and large, chooses Mutt because it is a superior tool for many mail processing needs; they also tend to use other powerful tools to further improve and streamline their mail processing needs. This question, and others like it arise on the list from time to time, and on the whole the community rejects the notion of "dumbing down" list policies (like this one, or like setting reply-to to the list address) for the benefit of those who are ignorant of, or can't be bothered to use better tools. I've been here for nearly 15 years, and the arguments have been pretty consistent for the entirety of that time. > I assume he's got a reason for wanting it and it's not my job to > get in his way. But in this case if you read his post, he's not asking for a way to make it happen for himself; he's advocating that it be "considered a standard worth implementing." Those were his words. [I apologize if my assumption of gender is incorrect.] Using the tools you suggested was rather counter to the reasons he gave for suggesting this. > I'm a sysadmin. My job is to make users' wishes happen, as long as > they don't hurt others or the overall system. I was a sysadmin for a very long time, and I daresay I was a pretty darn good one... I disagree that your job is to make users' wishes happen. Your job is to help your users to best leverage the technology you manage for them to achieve their goals. Sometimes, part of that job is recognizing that what the user thinks he wants IS WRONG, and pointing out that there are better alternatives. And sometimes, your job IS to get in their way, when getting their way hurts the greater user community. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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