=- Tony's unattended mail wrote on Sat  1.Dec'12 at 10:41:11 +0000 -=

> Jamie actually did this list a service. Overly sheltered mutt
> users have a tendancy to lose touch. Jamie's post actually exposed
> a mutt characteristic that can be improved.

a) improving mutt is good: go ahead.
b) this doesn't mean users should deteriorate in their awareness,
consciousness and consideration.

> Regardless of which standards a mutt user endorses, a good quality
> tool is lenient in what it accepts, handles it well, while being
> strict in what it produces.

see a).

> Yet mutt is not good at handling common deviations from standards and
> conventions.  Mutt would improve if mutt developers received more
> garbage that could be salvaged into something that's readable.

No, thanks, we had enough of it.
Currently the coders/requesters ration is close to 0.
It's not like "more catchup" stuff is being denied, there is no code.
Provide it, then see.
If still unhappy...

> This division between mutt users and users of crappy tools would only
> be favorable for mutt if mutt were the dominant tool - but it's not.

This appears to me like the "Uncertainty principle":
dominance doesn't relate well to "not crappy".
The masses don't go for quality but lazyness.
Sad, even depressing, but that's how it goes.
If there are exceptions, they are _very_ rare.


=- Tony's unattended mail wrote on Sat  1.Dec'12 at 10:46:32 +0000 -=

> Hold on.. regardless of etiquette, you exposed a mutt weakness, and
> caused an appropriately large spotlight on the matter.  Hopefully mutt
> developers will be influenced to continue improving mutt.

See a): _you_ _are_ the developer.

> As mutt users become increasingly surrounded by garbage, isolation is
> not practical.

... must think about it a bit before answering this...

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