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On Monday, January 11 at 05:58 PM, quoth Jostein Berntsen:
> He replied with this link:
>
> http://piiis.blogspot.com/2007/08/stop-annoying-imap-error-message-in.html
>
> Can this help in any way?

Whoever wrote that blog posting doesn't *quite* understand how IMAP 
works, but what they're essentially advocating is putting Outlook into 
a "nearly offline" mode. What happens with the configuration they're 
creating is that Outlook doesn't check with the mail server for so 
long that it assumes the connection has expired and simply opens a new 
connection every time it has to do something.

That's not helpful.

> I have tried to regulate the timeout value to higher, with no 
> result. The Imap_keepalive is set to standard value.

A higher $timeout won't help, in part because the $timeout setting 
doesn't do what you think it does. And even if it did, the point is 
that your server's administrator has apparently decided not to support 
persistent IMAP connections. In other words, connections to your IMAP 
server are apparently not allowed to last longer than a minute or two. 
If anything, you want a *lower* timeout value so that the server 
thinks you're busy using it. But if (as it appears) he's set an 
absolute limit on the length of your connections, then it doesn't 
really matter how often you remind the server that you're still there: 
it will simply disconnect you after a certain time period, NO MATTER 
WHAT.

The link your admin sent you is essentially a way of configuring 
Outlook to more effectively hide the fact that the server violated the 
IMAP spec and disconnected it. This only works because clients like 
Outlook (or Thunderbird or Apple Mail) often simply open a new 
connection to the server without bothering you. Mutt, however, does 
not (generally) do things without telling you, and so when its 
connection to the mail server dies (for ANY REASON), it will let you 
know about it.

I could give a dissertation about the apparent basic misunderstanding 
of the IMAP protocol in this blog post your admin sent, but I don't 
think it would help anything.

I'll repeat: the IMAP protocol is DESIGNED to be used for LONG TERM 
CONNECTIONS. A well-administered IMAP server (and a well-configured 
IMAP client) should allow you to remain connected for as long as you 
want (even years at a time). If you cannot remain connected for as 
long as you want (assuming your client has a reasonably low (e.g. five 
or ten minute) timeout), then something on the server is 
broken---either the server configuration or the server software.

Heck, IMAP even has the IDLE command, which allows clients to tell the 
server "let me know when new mail arrives", thereby avoiding periodic 
checks and saving tons of bandwidth.

~Kyle
- -- 
Men at some time are masters of their fates:
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings.
                                       -- Shakespeare, in Julius Caesar
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