* D. J. Bolderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-03 21:20]:
> On Thu, 03 Oct 2002, Sven Guckes wrote:
> > * D. J. Bolderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-03 14:18]:
> > > I want to read my private mail when I am at work.
> > then send me your boss's email address - and i think
> > we can talk about this problem of reading *personal*
> > email at *work* and even find a very easy solution..
>
> WTF is your problem dude...

solving *your* problem?

possible solutions:
(1) read your personal mail from home.
(2) read your personal with some other mail client.
(3) read your personal on another system.

you might be able to switch the system and/or the client
at work.  and i suppose you have full flexibility
to use whatever system at home.  unix or not.
and there are public systems with shell accounts.

my point:  this is *not* a _mutt_ problem.
mutt problems can be solved by installing
it differently in the first place or
by changing its configuration files.

you might also get a solution by installing
another program - but then it is usually a
problem of installing and configuring that.

however:
using windows xp at work with mutt is
just a workaround to the real problem.

so do not make it a mutt problem just because
you see mutt on windowsxp as the only solution.

opening the browser is *not* a mutt problem.
on unixes this problem is left to "urlview".

SecureCRT was mentioned as *one* solution as an
interface to the browser. did you try that yet?

besides, i do not think that the work place
is supposed to give internet access to
employess for reading their personal email.
but if your boss agrees to that - fine!

now, maybe you can ask your boss to allow a
pc to run some kind of free unix system with
elm, mutt, mush, nail, or pine for reading mail.
or maybe just open ssh for outbound connections.

then again, this might clash with security and
the fire wall of the company.  it all depends.

usually the best solution is the one used at home.

so you are looking for better ways to start the browser?  fine.
make urlview start some script then which accesses the browser.
this might be a script in some ported shell or window's shell.
but the script will run on windows, so it certainly won't
be a mutt config script.  this is not mutt any more.
therefore it is not a mutt problem.  see?

think differently.  the solution is elsewhere.
and discussing further problems resulting
from this can be discussed elsewhere, too.

such scripts can be the solution which can be used
by a helper application to mutt - but they do not
solve a problem with mutt itself.

i certainly welcome solutions such like these scripts,
esp on some webpage - and i will also link to these.

but the discussion of such problems which cannot be
solved by changing mutt's configuration files *only*
should probably be discussed elsewhere - and not here.

discussing the configuration of urlview might still
be on topic here (depending on your definition) -
but scripting windowsxp is definitely not on topic.

remember:
mutt is *not* a browser interface.
and it is *not* a shell, either.

that's what i am pointing out.
i hope you can deal with that.

now, there are many newsgroups
on the microsoft news server.
i'll attach a list for you.

these groups *might* be appropriate
to configure your windowsxp:

  microsoft.public.windowsxp.configuration_manage
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
  microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely

i do not claim to know whether these
newsgroups can really help you -
but then again M$ does not pay me
for solving your windowsxp problem.

your problem is an windowsxp problem.
or maybe it is a problem with your
computers available at work.
but these are not on topic here.

still, i hope that the list of newsgroups
can help you find people with knowledge
about windowsxp scripting and access to the
browsers used on that system.  good luck!

Sven
newsgroups about "windows xp" on news.fu-berlin.de on 2002-10-04:

elt.os.windows-xp             Microsoft Windows XP operating system.
alt.os.windows.xp
alt.windows-xp
cn.comp.os.winxp              Windows XP²Ù×÷ϵͳ
fido7.ru.windows.xp           Fidonet RU.WINDOWS.XP (Moderated)
fido7.ru.windows.xp.chainik   Fidonet RU.WINDOWS.XP.CHAINIK (Moderated)
fj.os.ms-windows.xp           Discussion about the Windows XP operating system.
it.comp.os.win.xp             Microsoft Windows XP
japan.comp.windows-xp         Topics on Microsoft Windows XP.
swnet.sys.windows-xp          Allt om datorsystem med MS Windows XP.

microsoft.public.cn.windowsxp

microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.active.directory
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.applications
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.dns
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.gruppen.richtlinien
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.hardware
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.multimedia
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.networking
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.ras
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.registry
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.setup
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.sonstiges
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.spiele
microsoft.public.de.german.windowsxp.terminalserver

microsoft.public.dk.windowsxp

microsoft.public.es.windowsxp
microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.aplicaciones
microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.hardware
microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.instalacion
microsoft.public.es.windowsxp.seguridad

microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp
microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp.connexion
microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp.installation
microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp.materiel
microsoft.public.fr.windowsxp.multimedia

microsoft.public.hu.windowsxp

microsoft.public.it.windowsxp

microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.communicationtools
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.compatibility
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.device
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.multimedia
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.networking
microsoft.public.jp.windowsxp.setup

microsoft.public.kr.windowsxp.qna

microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.home
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.installation
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.maintenance
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.music
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.networking
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.photovideo
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.pro
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.remote
microsoft.public.nl.windowsxp.security

microsoft.public.pt.windowsxp

microsoft.public.ru.russian.windowsxp

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.add_ons
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.gen.discussion
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.icw
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.info_delivery
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.msn
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.netmeeting.chat
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.onlineservices
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.outlookexpress
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.active_desktop
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.activexcontrol
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.codedownload
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.components.dhtml_editing
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.components.webbrowser_ctl
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.databinding
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.dhtml
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.dhtml.authoring
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.dhtml.behaviors
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.dhtml.scripting
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.dhtml.scriptlets
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.html+time
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.misc
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.multimedia
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.offline
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.sbnworkshop
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.urlmonikers
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.wininet
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.programming.xml
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.setup
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.shell
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie5.win31

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.add_ons
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.beta.adv.security.privacy
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.icw
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.outlookexpress
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.activexcontrol
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.components.codedownload
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.css
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.databinding
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.dhtml
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.dhtml.authoring
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.dhtml.behaviors
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.dhtml.scripting
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.editing
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.misc
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.multimedia
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.programming.webbrowser_ctl
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie55.setup

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.ieak
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.outlookexpress.wishlist
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.setup
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6beta.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6beta.ieak
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6beta.outlookexpress
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6beta.setup

microsoft.public.windowsxp.accessibility
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general
microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.help-and-support
microsoft.public.windowsxp.configuration_manage
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
microsoft.public.windowsxp.device_driver.dev
microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded.techpreview
microsoft.public.windowsxp.games
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker
microsoft.public.windowsxp.music
microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
microsoft.public.windowsxp.photos
microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment
microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
microsoft.public.windowsxp.winlogo
microsoft.public.windowsxp.wmi
microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely

microsoft.public.za.windowsxp
microsoft.public.za.windowsxp.multimedia
microsoft.public.za.windowsxp.networking
microsoft.public.za.windowsxp.setup

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