* Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G:
> % > * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge:
> % > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> ...
> % > > > I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails.
> % > > > If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a "N" , all mails in this
> 
> So you do see an 'N' in the browser view, then.
> 
> 
> % > > > mailbox are marked with an "O" instead of an "N".
> 
> Hokay; you must have been here before and then exited with $mark_old set.
> 
> 
> % > > 
> % > > set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :)
> % > > 
> % > But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages
> % > seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't
> % > there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an "O"
> % > instead of an "N". Understand ?
> 
> So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox.  When you
> return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even
> though you've never before laid eyes on message five.  Correct?
>
Correct. Message one through four are morked "O" when I haven't read
them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But
message five is marked "O" although I never laid eyes on it.

> If so, that is quite interesting.  Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any
> folder?  Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which
> might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header?
>
I see "N"ew mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am 
using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers
And I see "N"ew mails in the folder-list.

> What type of mailfolder are you using?  For a folder =mybox, what do you
> see when you run "ls -lF $MAIL/mybox"?
>
I use mbox folders.

chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF Mail/mutt-users 
-rw-rw----    1 chris    users      425032  9. Apr 18:58 Mail/mutt-users
chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF /var/spool/mail/chris 
-rw-rw----    1 chris    mail        15628  9. Apr 19:07
/var/spool/mail/chris

> What if, assuming it's an mbox folder, you (after first copying the
> mailbox to a temp mailbox to avoid corruption!) edit the file and
> remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on
> that folder?  Are the messages still old, or are they finally new?
>
They are all new.
> 
> % > Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would
> % > explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before.
> 
> No, they aren't; see the oft-recurring "why doesn't mutt tell me I have
> new mail?" and "can mutt tell me how many new mails I have?" discussions
> for more on this.
> 
> 
Greetings Christoph

> HTH & HAND
> 
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