Daniel --

...and then Daniel J Peng said...
% Are there any mail clients around other than Mutt that sign and
% encrypt messages the way Mutt does? Nobody I know is able to read my

Don't know, but I'd be surprised if

- there weren't any at all
- any were well-known in the Windoze world


% signed messages or verify my signatures, and the signatures seem to

Hey, it worked for me! :-)


% cause problems with some mailreaders. For instance, the message body
% shows up blank, and what I wrote only shows up in a text attachment
% (which, sadly enough, some people fail to notice and completely miss
% what I wrote).

Yeah; that's a common problem.


% 
% I read the rationale (or rather, what I believe to be the rationale)
% for this in PGP-Notes.txt, in the answer to the question, "I don't
% like that PGP/MIME stuff, but want to use the old way of PGP-signing
% my mails.  Can't you include that with mutt?" I don't understand why

Well, there's nothing that says you can't do it with macros; a few
different versions have been posted to this list, and a few patches out
there even make it easier to do.

And, in fact, it's my understanding that it now *is* included; since
you're using 1.2.4, check out the contributed pgp6.rc (at least) for the
pgp_clearsign_command setting.  I haven't yet played with 1.2.4 to see
how you get the pgp_clearsign_command instead of the pgp_sign_command
(I'm still converting my old muttrc and pgp to new muttrc and gpg) but
it certainly provides some hope; I plan to use whatever magic it is in
a hook when trading email with those poor LookOut! users (like my dad)
who cannot handle real signatures because the text body then becomes an
attachment -- which is then not quoted, but just included, in their reply.


% "Application/pgp is not really suited to a world with MIME,
% non-textual body parts and similar things." What exactly was wrong
% with the old way of signing e-mails, with "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED
% MESSAGE-----" and such? What is the benefit to PGP/MIME?

I don't have a great answer to give you, having happily accepted PGP/MIME
myself, but I do know that lots of forwarders, remailers, and listservers
tend to put things in the body of the message instead of in the headers
(where any such silly screwing around *should* go), and that will
definitely screw up your signature and, for all I know, maybe even the
ability to decrypt.


% 
% -- 

Cute sig, though a little long...


:-D
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