Marius --

...and then Marius Gedminas said...
% I mean -- both Mutt and fetchmail require an MTA[1], but fetchmail uses
% SMTP to access it (IIRC to avoid problems with different command line
% arguments for different MTAs etc.).  Mutt also needs an MTA, but it goes
% with the command line solution.  And there are problems with this

Very true.


% solution -- witness the recent questions about RFC-822 addresses
% containing spaces and the requirement for special wrapper scripts to
% make them work with qmail.

Well, people should know better than to use spaces for anything other
than separating options ;-)


% 
% ---
% [1] It can be argued, that fetchmail needs an MDA, not an MTA... but the
% thing listening on port 25 is usually an MTA.

Yeah.


% 
% On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:44:34AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > The mutt equivalent of fetchmail talking to SMTP would be mutt talking to
% > port 25 only on your machine, and therefore only after you had set up an
% > MTA already.
% 
% Exactly.  And this leads to the next trick question: what's the
% difference between talking to localhost:25 or remotehost:25? :)

I saw this coming, but didn't want to work around it at the time.  Yes, I
know that it doesn't really matter where the port is.  That's why I said
"equivalent" :-)


% 
% It's not that I advocate adding SMTP support to Mutt [2], but I just
% wonder, why two programs following the same Unix philosophy (do one
% thing well) choose so different solutions [3] for so similair tasks --
% handing an email to an MTA.

Perhaps because it's just philosophy, which is subject to endless debate!


% 
% ---
% [2] Well, that would be a nice thing to have if I try to compile it on
% WinNT again ;)

Hey, now, this *would* be nice :-)


% [3] I know that fetchmail can feed the email to an external program
% instead of localhost:25, but the default way is SMTP.
% 
% BTW in the standard Unix world (MDA/MUA/MTA), where does fetchmail fit
% in?

It doesn't; it's for the nonstandard world of dialups and goofy accounts
and no forwarding and whatnot.  At least, that's my casual answer for
today :-)


% 
% Marius Gedminas
% -- 
% All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.


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