Derek Martin wrote in
 <20240429203624.ge19...@bladeshadow.org>:
 |On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 06:45:57PM +0200, ilf wrote:
 |> The Autocrypt project worked on a draft for "Protected Headers for
 |> Cryptographic E-mail" [1]. That became the IETF draft "Header Protection \
 |> for
 |> Cryptographically Protected E-mail" [2]. draft-ietf-lamps-header-protect\
 |> ion
 |> is an Active Internet-Draft of the LAMPS WG, a "Proposed Standard" \
 |> and it is
 |> on track to become an RFC.
 |> 
 |> 1. https://github.com/autocrypt/protected-headers
 |> 2. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection/
 |
 |Neat.  But this feature seems like a misfeature, making you
 |immediately susceptible to MITM.  It encourages users to forgo
 |establishing the trust of the keys so received.  What's to stop me
 |from sending you a forged e-mail that appears to be from someone else,
 |with an address and public key that I control?  Or, if I control
 |their/your local mail server, just replacing the key they gave with my
 |own?  Part of the point of using PGP/GPG is that you have taken the
 |time to verify the identity and key signature of the person presenting
 |the key, to prevent MITM attacks and similar.  This seems tailor-made
 |to encourage less savvy users (or really everyone) to do exactly the
 |wrong thing.

I *wholeheartly* agree!  S/MIME is so much better by concept!
This is why i like the new approach most PGP people now use, in
that they use a signed MIME multipart which includes the public
key as an attachment.

And, btw, i am in full support of the OpenPGP: header that can be
DKIM protected (plus by the "protected headers").  Unfortunately
that never made it to a standard.

  ...

For PGP there really should be better (ie: TXT-based; or like so)
SMIMEA/OPENPGKEY DNS entries, because what else one can have?
WKD, and HKPS.  I (and many others) use OpenPGP: and point via
https:// --- which is totally absurd given that the entire HTTPS
aka TLS community as it is of today uses CA pools that is based
upon commercial supermans.  No.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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