FWIW, while I agree with Paul's request, I also agree with Oswald's "state of the discussion" update. I think Derek might have been a bit out of line attacking me personally earlier (and I might have been out of line possibly attacking Derek personally earlier still), but this wouldn't be the first time we started a flame war on this list. That's why I strongly second Paul's request not to turn this into yet another flame war. (Derek, on the other hand, would be better served by diffusing the discussion into a flame war, since current Mutt behavior is closer to what he wants than to what I want, AFAICT.)
- Dave On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:38:15PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 02:57:25PM +0000, Paul Walker wrote: > > This thread seems to be getting a bit personal in places. Can people > > please keep the discussion related to mutt (or at least security)...? > > > well, i expected somebody to say something like that. actually, the one > calling me anti-american is still missing. ;) > obviously, i think that the discussion still *is* relevant to mutt's > security, otherwise i'd take it off-list. > > for the record, my choices were: > - ignore dave. this would be silly - based on the same reasoning as used > in the mail in question. > - fight him on the basis of every possible technical aspect. pointless, > obviously. > - simply show him how his line of argumentation is fundamentally flawed > (he seems to like that fu-word :). if you think that the used reasoning > or comparisons are getting too personal, then it's too bad ... for > you. :-P SCNR > his choices are now: > - ignore me > - flame me, in which case i will ignore him > - show me how my argumentation is flawed > - accept that i'm right and based on that rethink his own position > towards a more differentiated one, based on pragmatic and not on > ideological arguments. this doesn't even mean changing the actual > position, as in the $PATH case we seem to agree mostly. ;) > > ok, enough theoretizing. :) > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > -- > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
