On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 04:03, Chris Holt wrote:
> Hello, Raider,

        Hi Chris...

        Here is my test list:

track02.orig.wav - unmodified 
track02.r3mix.wav - --r3mix 
track02.standard.wav - --alt-preset standard 
track02.extreme.wav - --alt-preset extreme 
track02.insane.wav - --alt-preset insane 
track02.128k.wav - 128k cbr (--preset tape)
track02.160k.wav - 160k cbr (--preset hifi)
track02.192k.wav - 192k cbr (--preset cd) 
track02.256k.wav - 256k cbr (--preset studio)
track02.320k.wav - 320k cbr (-b 320) 
track02.abr128.wav - 128k abr
track02.abr160.wav - 160k abr
track02.abr192.wav - 192k abr
track02.abr256.wav - 256k abr
track02.abr320.wav - 320k abr                                           
track02.vbr1.wav - --vbr-new -V 4 -q 2 
track02.vbr2.wav - --vbr-new -V 1 -q 2 
track02.vbr3.wav - --vbr-new -V 4 -q 0
track02.vbr4.wav - --vbr-new -V 4 -q 5
track02.vbr5.wav - --vbr-new -V 7 -q 2
track02.vbr6.wav - --vbr-old -V 4 -q 2
track02.vbr7.wav - --vbr-old -V 1 -q 2
track02.vbr8.wav - --vbr-old -V 4 -q 0
track02.vbr9.wav - --vbr-old -V 4 -q 5
track02.vbr10.wav - --vbr-old -V 7 -q 2

        I know I should have put that in my first mail. :(
 
> Sorry, you never mentioned bitrate and you said "I'm not very good with this", so I 
>was addressing things that I thought you may not have taken into account..

        Just because I know on the surface how lame works doesn't mean I have
the slightest idea of what is going on with my sound.  I'm working on an
empirical level - rip, encode, decode, burn - listen and compare the two
versions.  And to be frank I was surprised to find out that all but the
not encoded (and than decoded) version had that dinamics problem.

> Okay, as for LAME, there are a bewildering number of options, and I suspect that 
>unless you started your tests sometime last fall you haven't gotten through all the 
>possible incarnations yet.  :)

        You are right with this.  But as you can see there are quite a lot of
versions with only a few test options.  The initial wish was to find out
what's the best way to encode (I normally use --r3mix) and also to hear
the difference between 128k cbr and 224k for example.

> Perhaps you might get some good tips out of the r3mix site.  http://www.r3mix.net 

        I don't see anything on the r3mix site related with this problem.  Even
if it's extremely helpful and well organised... still, no hint.

> Not to mention, it's a hell of a lot easier than typing:   "--nspsytune --vbr-mtrh 
>-V1 -mj -h -b96 --lowpass 19.5 --athtype 3 --ns-sfb21 2 -Z --scale 0.98 -X0"   :)

        ;-) True.  But you can also set an alias for the shell... or make a
short script or even better - use a GUI front-end ;-)

        Given the above list - which included the switches involved in encoding
the original wav (the decoding was like this 'lame -decode tune.mp3')
are there any other filters that are triggered by default?

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