MOUers: This discussion can be applied to unusual, out-of-range, etc. birds in general. Even though I was lucky enough to see the birds, I remember that overeager birders ran off the Ruddy Quail-Dove that was at Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge in the 1990s and that other overeager birders caused the Eared Quetzal nest in the Huachuca Mountains in 1991 to fail. Such examples are part of why it is illegal per federal law to play songs of endangered species birds. On the other hand every year I take people on hikes every year to show them Golden-cheeked Warblers at one of our local state natural areas; I just don't play their songs to bring the things in. The fact that the Flammulated Owl that has been at the South Padre Island Convention Center, TX, has been there since January, illustrates that some species are more tolerant of disturbance than other species. I suspect that some species of birds may not be as tolerant of disturbance as that bird has been.
Later! Steve Stevan Hawkins San Antonio TX -----Original Message----- From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fr. Paul Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [mou-net] Owl locations I'm sure this thread will be deleted as here we go again with owl locations, but my two cents are with Rachel. I can understand if someone wants to let others know of a unique bird or just be contacted via e-mail, but if someone is going to keep it to themselves entirely it's hard not to take it as gloating. I see a bird on here, I try to find it - that's the whole point of the list to me, not to hear of someone's great find, but to share in that by taking the time and trying to find a bird and get some nice photographs. I'm not sure how many people even know this list exists and think most on here would be respectful. Again, not posting it publicly but saying "Please e-mail me" or something like that is fine, but not sharing at all begs the question why share in the first place? Ego or gloating? Regards, Fr. Paul Kammen -----Original Message----- From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Crownhart, Rachel Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [mou-net] Owl locations I will second this. And if you aren't going to share your locations what is the point in posting. Keep it to your self. Rachel Crownhart Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "Sandy Kuder" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, I want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. And using artificial calls of any kind is not a disturbance? > > As it was, we exposed the Screech Owl to predation by a Great-horned. I'm always amazed at how much credit people give themselves. > > I'm sorry, but this is extremely irritating. If I'm not mistaken, the MOU-listserve is about sharing information. Call me naive, but I believe mostbirders understand and have some ethics. It is a past-time or passion that is near and dear to a lot of heartsand no one I've ever met birding, would ever jeopardize their well-being. > > Just my two cents worth. > > SandyKuder, > Anoka County > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Steve Weston <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:54 AM >> Subject: [mou-net] Owl locations >> >> Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, >> I want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. I am sorry, but >> will not be sharing my locations. As it was, we exposed the Screech >> Owl to predation by a Great-horned. I will share locations of the >> large owls that are visible by day. >> >> -- >> Steve Weston >> On Quigley Lake in Eagan, MN >> [email protected] >> >> ---- >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > ---- > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
