On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Serguei Trouchelle <s...@cpan.org> wrote:

> sawyer x wrote:
>
>  I don't understand why people upload things to CPAN that are specifically
>> exclusively without-a-doubt on-purpose *just
>> for them*?
>>
>
> Because it's convenient for them.


Well, that's pretty obvious, even to me. :)
But just because it's convenient isn't good enough of a reason to do it, in
my opinion (of course).


>
>  People always say "hey, if it's useful for even one person, it should be
>> out there", but these are things that are on
>> purpose only useful and meant for the author. Why upload them?
>>
>
> You can address this question to every Acme:: author. 95% of Acme::
> modules aren't even useful, though no one complains about this (usually).


No, I can't. Acme:: is people sharing jokes, which in most cases aren't
supposed to be "useful", they're JOKES. Author::PAUSEID,
Task::BeLike::PAUSEID and Dist::Zilla::PluginBundle::PAUSEID are by people
*not* sharing *anything* with *anyone* except using CPAN as their private
repository. So, yes, there's a major difference.


>
>  CPAN is not our private repository. It's not our backyard shed, it's not
>> our personal storage. Why keep doing this?
>>
>
> I've never seen any description what CPAN is -- apart from the fact it's a
> collection of some Perl modules and scripts. Some of them are not even free.
>

Obviously CPAN is a place to upload modules so others can view, share and
use them.

By your claim, I can use CPAN to upload my last YAPC trip pictures (and
hell, replace Flickr), because "I've never seen any description of what
CPAN is". So, no, there isn't a given description, but I think it's pretty
obvious to both of us and anyone on this list and on CPAN. Using generic
excuses as "there's no sign on what goes in the pool, so I can pee in it"
don't help us much here.


>
>  I seriously don't understand it, and I think people should stop doing it.
>> I personally have my personal stuff either on
>> my personal Git repository or on my Github repository. It's *my* stuff. I
>> try to upload stuff to CPAN that can (might)
>>
>> be useful for others too, hopefully.
>>
>
> Personally I try to not care about things that have no direct impact on me.
>

That's perfectly fair. I was just replying to a request for feedback.


> If someone wants to establish a CPAN Police Force, they can better do
> something with obviously malicious things like this one:
> http://search.cpan.org/dist/**CPAN-Index/<http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPAN-Index/>


Indeed, if anyone asked me "is there anything you would like to fix on
CPAN", the personal authors distributions wouldn't be my first choice
either. I completely agree with you on that point.

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