On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 03:45:26PM -0500, Guy Hulbert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 14:28 -0600, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 10:44 -0800, Bill Ward wrote: > > > Experimenting with the language itself should be reserved for new > > > development such as Perl 6, not for trying to add yet more layers on > > > top of Perl 5. > > > > Hi. Nobody cares about your opinion on this matter. Many perl5 > > I do.
I do, so that's at least 3 people. > > experiments have been quite successful; for example, Moose. > > macros? Don't use 'em. Don't like people using macros in CPAN modules? > > Don't use 'em. Trying to control what other people think and do will > > get you nothing except flames. > > I think you could be a bit more charitable in your interpretation of > Bill's opinions. He certainly didn't manage to "control" you very well. > > Because perl modules can install their own dependencies, his concern is > other people affecting *his* choices. One particular problem can be that if something you use adds a dependency on something else you weren't previously using, so you can reach the situation where upgrading to fix a bug will also bring in something new that you didn't want (for valid local policy reasons). Nicholas Clark