You are welcome, colleague!

Keep in mind the SoBs are threatening to release 2.18 as we speak, but like
everything else they do, it’s a dog and pony show in a Potemkin Village.

They simply are too lazy, inept, and mendacious to execute.

Use trunk, while it still exists.

Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:12 PM Mithun Bhattacharya <mit...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Also thank you for the library !
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 1:11 PM Mithun Bhattacharya <mit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So is there a cleaner/saner version of libapreq2 or is the 2012 version
>> better ?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 12:58 PM Joe Schaefer <j...@sunstarsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For the past 25 years, I have been the lead developer of the libapreq2
>>> subproject within the Apache HTTPd Server Parent Project. The original idea
>>> of libapreq as a safe/performant HTML form and Cookie parsing library came
>>> out of a collaboration between Lincoln Stein and Doug MacEachern in the
>>> late 90s.
>>>
>>> It was my vision back then to transform the library into a generic,
>>> non-Perl related C library that would support language bindings from other
>>> programming languages, which is why I pushed for the project to be homes
>>> under the HTTPd umbrella instead of the Apache-Perl project.
>>>
>>> While this vision was wildly successful, with language bindings
>>> available for several languages like Perl, TCL, R, etc, ever since about
>>> 2010 its proven tragic for the existing user community consisting of all of
>>> them, not just Perl.
>>>
>>> What happened? Philip Gollucci, a Perl/FreeBSD olleague of mine at the
>>> time, started agitating that we promote the project to be released from
>>> inside the HTTPd server itself. What Philip didn’t know very well back then
>>> was how utterly vapid and territorial that team had become, which would
>>> have meant having to collaborate with them directly on user-facing
>>> decisions about the code base.
>>>
>>> In 2012, Philip got what he wanted and I stopped resisting, so he forked
>>> the existing project and copied the C library components into HTTPd core.
>>>
>>> In 2016 I resigned from the Foundation en masse. You can guess the
>>> reasons.
>>>
>>> In 2020 or so, Google’s Security Team took advantage of an alpha release
>>> of httpd 2.5 by fuzzing its 8 year old copy of apreq. It found a few
>>> hotspots that needed repair.
>>>
>>> Instead of having the courtesy of reaching out to me, or anyone else
>>> involved in development of apreq, a junior engineer on the HTTPd team went
>>> about the business of “bug fixing” the vulnerabilities Google found. You
>>> can see a record of his trial and error work in every release since then.
>>>
>>> But the coup de grace was the 2022 release of 2.17, wherein the rookie
>>> developer purposely introduced a fatal bug into the codebase, breaking a
>>> fifteen year old regression test.
>>>
>>> If you are wondering how something with a broken regression test winds
>>> up on CPAN, you’ll have to look into how RELENG is done in the server
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Long story short, they commented out the test and shipped it anyway, and
>>> called it a Security Release that fixed a vulnerability every prior release
>>> was susceptible to.
>>>
>>> Why do I care now? Because I’m the sucker users reach out to for answers
>>> as a known subject matter expert.
>>>
>>> This sucks, but I’m sorry to tell you that my days wearing the Superman
>>> cape at Apache ended 8 years ago.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joe Schaefer, Ph.D.
>>> <https://sunstarsys.com/orion/features>
>>> Orion - The Enterprise Jamstack Wiki
>>> <https://sunstarsys.com/orion/features>
>>> <j...@sunstarsys.com>
>>> 954.253.3732 <//954.253.3732>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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