On Oct 3, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote:

There is no "slump." It takes a long time (years) and a lot of work to write a good technical book. mod_perl 2.0 came out a few months ago. If you want mod_perl 2 books, ask your favorite publishers for them. Don't expect any soon though, unless someone is already writing them.

On that note, I would love any help or feedback on where to get started on writing
a good tech book for MP2. I can't think of anything that would get me more up to
speed on it's features. I am by no means an expert.

I keep several O' Reilly books on perl, mod_perl and apache but find myself digging for
more up to date info constantly. Don't know what I'd do without this mailing list.

On the apache list a person pointed me at this soon to be released Pro Apache 2.0 Module Development book:
<x-tad-smaller>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590594436/002-0673693-1147268?v=glance</x-tad-smaller>

Another person on this list suggested writing a new book to me. I think it
would be great, if nothing else to take most of what's in Practical mod_perl
and just update the examples with either MP2 structures or more up to date
CPAN modules would save people like me a bit of trouble. It seems to me
when I use examples out of Practical mod_perl a lot of the time I find out
after I put my code together that there a new or better (i.e. more efficient)
solution and that I'm using dated material.

It's not that I don't want to check here to get up to date info. It's more that
I can't always get online (I develop locally.) Sometimes, it can take days
to get a solution because of this.

The on-line documentation has always been the best place to look for up-to-date API reference material, and I expect it always will be. The books are more about getting the big picture and learning where to look for solutions. No book will ever keep up with the rate of change on CPAN, so it's a given that you have to supplement suggestions about modules with research of your own.

I imagine any book that is written would be dated as soon as it was published
nowa days. That's something that can't be helped.
As far as trying to cover all the modules in CPAN, well that's beyond mod_perl2
anyway. I'm thinking more along the lines of the "core" modules that are
used in mod_perl2 and the most common supportive modules.
Even a text version of what's on:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/index.html
and
http://httpd.apache.org/apreq/docs/libapreq2/

Would help out a lot...

Am I pipe dreaming?

Boysenberry

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On Oct 3, 2005, at 10:35 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote:

Foo Ji-Haw wrote:
I have this feeling that Perl is generally 'frozen' until Perl 6 comes out.

That's completely untrue. No mod_perl development is waiting for Perl6 in any way.

Publishers (O' Reilly) are
complaining that Perl is not a sellout it used to be.

Alison Randal recently mentioned in a use.perl.org post that sales of O'Reilly's Perl books are up.

That probably caused
the print slump as well.

There is no "slump." It takes a long time (years) and a lot of work to write a good technical book. mod_perl 2.0 came out a few months ago. If you want mod_perl 2 books, ask your favorite publishers for them. Don't expect any soon though, unless someone is already writing them.

The on-line documentation has always been the best place to look for up-to-date API reference material, and I expect it always will be. The books are more about getting the big picture and learning where to look for solutions. No book will ever keep up with the rate of change on CPAN, so it's a given that you have to supplement suggestions about modules with research of your own.

- Perrin


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