Hello Steven / List

>       Computer screen or TV screen?  There's a big difference.

Well I do it on computer screen, but now I know what I'll get.
If it looks Ok on a computer screen it will be far too dark on a TV.


>       What does the final MPEG-2 burned to a DVD look like  on a TV set?

Usually too dark if not using the gamma @ 1 on the camera. 

>       I guess the next question I have is "how are you reducing to the PAL
>       standard"?  Perhaps there's something about how that is being done
>       that is causing the range to be shifted to the dark side.

find files | y4m422 | y4munsharp | y4mscaler -S option=cubic | yuvdenoise | 
yuvcorrect | mpeg2enc


>       Or are you going thru a YUV -> RGB -> YUV conversion step along the
>       way - that would account for some of the level shift.
Ho no  ... long gone ... thanks to y4m422

>       Have you tried both settings?  I wonder if the 0 means "none"/"disabled"
>       while 1 enables the gamma of whatever value is wired into the camera

This is it the 1 enables the gamma correction wired to the camera. Results on 
TV are pretty god after but there is definitely a lost in the definition / 
sharpness, it tends to flatten a lot out...

>       -Y Y_0.95_16_235_24_235
>       might be what you want.  I've found, in my recent conversions of
>       old/dark tapes, that a gamma adjust of 0.95 works nicely to brighten
>       the data without overexposing/blowing-out the highlights.

Ok will give it a go .... I think I can get rid of -Y CONFORM then..

>       Problem with the current state of the tools is that there's no
>       immediate visual feedback. 

Well I choose a short scene and yuvplay, but then, yes, I need to go back to 
the script, modify etc .... I tried to install Cinepaint without much 
success...

>       You need to run an encoding session, 
>       look at the results, change the script(s), repeat.  I use FinalCutPro
>       to do all my editing and color correction - there you can adjust the
>       filters and see (on an external TV monitor) the effect.

->> Well What I can do is actually foward the acquisition to my TV card 
(eventually a use for it !!!!!) then a TV monitor, broadcast ones are too 
expensive yet for me..


>       First lesson is to use a TV monitor and not a computer screen for
>       video editing (color correction).

I will then use DV files and Kino option External monitor.. Get my parameters 
Ok, then go back to raw data directly to mpeg2enc....

>       What does 'y4mhist' say about your data?  Run a few frames thru
>       'y4mhist' (which understands 4:2:2 so there's no need to convert
>       the chroma sampling).  The Y' table will show the distribution of
>       luma samples (a waveform monitor would be Nice - but that's probably
>       outside your budget ;)).  If there's a heavy concentration below 32 

Ok will keep that in mind....

>       or 
>       so then the scene is quite dark.  Run a histogram before and after
>       whatever processing is being done to reduce to PAL and see if the
>       levels are being shifted.

Good point .... Should have done that already; the first step in fact...
Will keep you posted.

>       Good Luck!
Thanks a lot
E


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