On Sat, 22 May 2004, Dan Scholnik wrote:

> So, to sum up, I was just speculating that the extra 3% came not from
> removing y4mdenoise artifacts, but from the slightly heavier effective
> spatial filtering resulting from two calls to y4mspatialfilter.  To find
> out for sure, run the 2 y4mspatialfilter calls back-to-back before
> y4mdenoise.

        Ok - but that's the last 22 hours I'll spend with that for a while ;)

        I used a capture from a low quality (EP mode VHS is about as low
        as one can get ;)).   Total play time was about 158318 frames or
        88 minutes (black/white).

        The difference is very slight  but running the 2nd y4mspatialfiter
        _after_ y4mdenoise is a little lower.  Significant?  Probably not, but
        it didn't slow things down so saving the extra megabyte or so didn't
        cost anything.

        1)  For y4mspatialfilter | y4mdenoise | y4mspatialfilter

                INFO: [mplex] No. I Frames    :    10757 avg. size 27568 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] No. P Frames    :   147561 avg. size  8845 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] No. B Frames    :        0 avg. size     0 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] Average bit-rate :  2425600 bits/sec
                INFO: [mplex] Peak bit-rate    :  7731200  bits/sec

        2) y4mspatialfilter | y4mspatialfilter | y4mdenoise

                INFO: [mplex] No. I Frames    :    10757 avg. size 28070 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] No. P Frames    :   147561 avg. size  8871 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] No. B Frames    :        0 avg. size     0 bytes
                INFO: [mplex] Average bit-rate :  2439200 bits/sec
                INFO: [mplex] Peak bit-rate    :  7724800  bits/sec

        at this point I'm not going to bother with another day's encoding time
        to try the simpler case of "y4mspatialfilter | y4mdenoise".   The
        difference is probably not worth the time/effort.

        It does, at least for VHS sources, appear to be worth adding a mild
        y4mspatialfilter as a "low pass filter" before going into other
        filters (such as y4mdenoise).

        Cheers,
        Steven Schultz



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