On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Richard Ellis wrote:

> For the numbers I posted, the q value was 7.  It is interesting that
> -N would have differing effects depending on the -q value.  That may

        Initially I thought it unusual but after thinking about it a 
        bit it's to be expected.   The lower -q is the "harder" the
        encoder will push up against the bitrate limit - the increase
        in the high frequency quantizers have less effect if a high
        quality (low -q) has been given.

> depend on how/where -N is applied within the encoder.  If it's
> applied after -q has had it's effect, then that might explain why
> changing -q changes -N's effect.

        Probably a good idea to mention that -N affects the quanization
        matrices.  It's not that the two options are separate operations
        applied in sequence.   -q sets the quantization scale and -N
        affects the hf entries in the matrices.   I think that setting a
        low qscale causes the slight "rolloff" from low -N to have less
        effect - eventually, at larger -N, the effect finally becomes
        more noticeable.

        The difference between bitrate (which I tend to use instead of
        filesize) for -N 0.0 and -N 0.1 at -q 5 is 7379200 vs 7378400
        while for -q 8 it was 7048000 vs 6896400

        It should be an interesting table but will take another day or so
        to complete.

> reports that it's using the MMX and SSE extensions that are available
> for a P4.  Are all the MMX/SSE optimizations the same for both copies
> of mpeg2enc?  If not, that would imply that the optimizations aren't

        Supposedly MMX/SSE is enabled for all instances of mpeg2enc.  
        But that has to be the case - have you ever tried running a
        non-MMX enabled mpeg2enc?   Oh my god it's slow - about a 
        factor of 5 or so if memory serves me correctly (few years back
        there was a kernel bug that prohibited MMX from working correctly,
        I could run mpeg2enc but it was painful - thankfully the bug was
        fixed and instead of .3 frames/sec a P3-800 can get around 1.5 
        or a bit less).

        I suppose there could be mathlibrary differences - I'm not sure
        how much mpeg2enc uses -lm routines.  

        I should try a run on the G4 Powerbook and see what it comes up
        with.

        Steven Schultz



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