Out of curiosity how much is the data "damaged" by a conversion from 4:1:1 to RGB and from there to 4:2:0?
Or really how much more damage than is already done going from 4:1:1 to 4:2:0, which really results in the (quality) equivalent of 4:1:0 (if such a beast exists). The decimation and interpolation errors that result from 4:1:1 -> 4:4:4 (RGB) -> 4:2:0 can be made as small as you like in theory - just use larger filters (kernels). Of course, many of the available conversion tools don't allow very sophisticated filtering, and large filters take a while to compute. In particular the decimation (subsampling) stage is the critical one. As for colorspace-conversion damage, I presume this depends on the nature of the input. The full R'G'B' colorspace maps into YCbCr, but even ignoring quantization it's not always invertible. It's easy enough to check for clipping in the inverse map, though (although I don't know of any programs that do). If the actual source of the video was an RGB source - say a typical CCD-based video camera, then maybe you're OK. My own camera does actually produce Y values above 235, in which case you would have to scale it down to avoid clipping. I have used yuvcorrect in RGB mode on occasion, and I can't say I've identified any obvious artifacts due to the conversion. Certainly the CCD noise dominates any extra quantization noise. A cheap and dirty measurement would be to measure the mean-square/avg/peak error between 4:1:1->4:2:0 frames and 4:1:1->RGB->4:2:0. Or just look at them side by side. The normal path is to go from DV (411) to 420 directly but I'm eye'ing some of the NetPBM filters (seems that most/many of the good filters want PPM data). In particular the 'pnmnlfilt' program sounds intriguing, it offers: 'Alpha trimmed mean filter', 'Optimal estimation smoothing' and 'Edge enhancement'. All the types of things we might want to do or at least try. Do they do pipes? Horrible to think of splitting into frame images... Dan ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en _______________________________________________ Mjpeg-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mjpeg-users