On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 18:08, William Sherman -Visualization wrote:
> > Kino can doat least some if not all of those things.  Check out the "FX'
> > tab.  You can overwrite (or create) frames from a file there.
> 
> When I try the overwrite, it seems to also overwrite audio, even though
> under the Audio tab, I have "No Change" selected.

Are you sure it's overwriting (replacing) frames and not creating new
ones?  I've done this before, but it so happens that the frames I was
replacing were silent anyway, so I wouldn't have noticed if the sound
had been overwritten.

> >  You could
> > use mplayer to dump frames and then insert frames from the FX tab's
> > multiple image import to overwrite just the video and leave the audio.
> 
> Okay, I have no idea how to use mplayer to do this, nor how to just
> overwrite the video.

"mplayer -vo png yourmoviefile" will dump each frame as a png image. 
You can use the "-ss" option to seek to a certain position in the movie
(it's not terribly precise, but works OK), and the "-frames" option to
control how many frames to dump.

> Okay, I've downloaded the smilutils, but haven't gotten to the point of
> using them yet.

They work quite nicely.  That's what I use for all my DV conversions
now, and they can pull the audio as a wav or as an mp2.

> Do you have a short tutorial of what buttons you press to do the video-only
> overwritting?  Also, how to use a frame from the existly playlist as the
> overlaid image?

If you're overwriting with a single frame (a held shot, for example),
it's easy.  Load up your video, go to the point where you want to
overwrite the held shot, then use the "ImageMagick Overlay" FX to
overwrite the frames.  That's the short version.  Longer version is
this:

Use the VCR controls to get to the point where the frames should be
overwritten.  Position it so the first frame to overwrite is visible. 
Now pull down the "Commands" menu and choose "Split scene".  Now move it
to the last frame to overwrite, then forward one more frame (so you're
on the first frame *not* to be overwritten). Split the scene again.  So
now you should have a scene that consists entirely of frames to be
overwritten.  Select the scene (click on the thumbnail for it).  The
first frame to overwrite should now be visible.  Click the FX tab. 
Selecte the "Frames" subtab and then the "Overwrite" tab.  It should
already have the correct options, just make sure the "limit to" button
is NOT depressed.  Now click the "Image" subtab.  Choose the "Filter"
tab, and change the drop-down option to "ImageMagick Overlay".  Click
the "Browse" button and select the image to overwrite with.  Leave
everything else at the defaults.  Click "Preview" if you like, then
click "Render" to do the deed.  

Kino will create a new video sequence and insert it into the edit list
in place of the frames you selected.  Your original video is NOT
modified (which I *really* like), just the edit list.  Then when you
pump the edit list through the smilutils, you get the edited video.  You
can then mplex that back together with the original audio and you're all
set.

>       Thanks again,
>       Bill

No problem.  I am a relative newcomer to all this stuff myself, so there
may be easier way, but so far I can make it do what I need without much
trouble.

--
  Robert Kesterson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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