I'll have to disagree a bit here.  Manufacturers go through cycles and
usually there is one that stands out on a size/period.

Manufacturers almost never change the manufacturing process over time
for a particular drive.  They will update firmware as time goes buy.  So
a good drive today is going to be equally good in a few years.

The thing I disagree with is that there are very good 2TB drives out
there.  The trick is to have enough of a brand (usually a few hundred)
to start to understand it's personality.  If you have volume you can
pretty easily determine which manufacturer is good today and sucked
yesterday.  And when a new generation drives come out it starts all over
again.

Oh and be safe, make backups.

FWIW

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:11:52PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
> On 12/10/10 17:25, Paolo Aglialoro wrote:
> > ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba???
> > 
> 
> I'm going to say "Anyone who says brand X is great and Y is crap" has
> just exposed themselves as a newbie in the computer business. :)
> 
> I've seen every make of drive have some real stinkers, and also build
> drives that don't seem to die.  Unfortunately, by the time you can say,
> "This model is really good" or "this model is a disaster", it's too
> late, the drive has been out of production for six months (or has had
> its production processes changed, and the old results don't represent
> the current production runs).
> 
> One of the worst drives in terms of quality and failure I ever saw was
> the Seagate ST225.  One of the best was...uh...the Seagate ST225.  The
> difference was at the beginning, the ST225 was a cutting edge drive, a
> whopping 20M of storage in a half-height case, with a label on the drive
> listing dozens of bad sectors.  By the end of its production run, the
> bad sector tables on almost all ST225 drives were COMPLETELY empty, they
> were 100% good out of the box, and would run long past their useful
> life.  By this point, they were old tech and Just Worked.
> 
> (ok, the worst drives I ever had were "JTS".  One day, I was overly
> frustrated at all the major drive makers, and saw these "JTS" brand
> drives, and figured they either had a good idea or a bad one.  Turned
> out to be bad beyond my imagination...  Fortunately, they seem to have
> vanished from the world shortly after they arrived, but...  *shudder*)
> 
> I discovered (quite) a few years back that you could toast a Samsung
> disk on demand using the Novell disk test utility.  Now, I can't seem to
> get one to fail.
> 
> Right now, if you buy a 2TB disk, expect it to be unreliable.  Expect a
> 300G drive to last for quite some time (if you can find one). You still
> have to have backups, you still have to have plan for what you do until
> it is repaired (failure tolerance), and you have to have a plan for how
> you will repair it (failure recovery).
> 
> If you are deploying a thousand machines, yeah, it would be really nice
> to know that this particular production run will blow 200 drives in the
> expected life span of the project and that another model and production
> run would blow 50, and buy the one that will fail only 50, but you won't
> have that kind of information until the project is done.  For small
> projects, all drives of all types, technologies and interfaces can and
> do fail.  Be ready for it.  Have a backup, have a failure tolerance and
> recovery plan.
> 
> 
> Here's another thought: for maximum data retention, your drives (and the
> rest of your systems) *must fail* from time to time, and do so often
> enough to keep you remembering that they DO fail to keep your backup
> solutions working and your failure tolerance and recovery plans useful.
>  Go enough years without an "oh poop" incident, you get cocky and
> sloppy.  I can't prove that statement, but if you don't believe me, you
> might prove it for me. :)
> 
> Me?  I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale.  And if it fails, I
> test my tolerance and recovery plans :)  Do this right, your system will
> be back up faster than you can digest dozens of people's opinions about
> the "best" drives and pick one (which may turn out to be a stinker anyway).
> 
> Nick.

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