Thanks for your updates to the story Nick.  As I said at this time I can't
replace the card but I will certainly do so as soon as I'm able.  I
appreciate your feedback.

Shawn

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Nick Holland
<n...@holland-consulting.net>wrote:

> On 10/22/10 11:56, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
> > It's not only problem with license, but with quality of Adaptec as a
> > whole http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=125783114503531&w=2 . But
> > maybe it changed as there is not Adaptec anymore.
>
> And don't forget this follow up:
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=126775051500581&w=2
>
> As you people keep bringing Adaptec cards, I'm gonna update my story...
>  If you haven't read the above chapters in the story, you might.  I
> swear in it a few times.  I don't usually do that.  It's worth the read
> just for that. :)
>
> ok, when we last saw this story, Adaptec was working on new firmware
> which really would fix the problem.  Not too long after I wrote the
> second chapter in this saga, I got word from my ever-patient support guy
> that they got a new firmware for me, and if this doesn't do it, they are
> sending me new controllers (LSI), which they have switched to for all
> new machines they send out (forcing a rev of their application).
>
> The new firmware is installed, and finally..things are working.
>
>
> For a while.
>
>
> A couple months ago, one of the boxes hangs and quits working, somewhat
> like the very very first problem, but to be honest, that isn't my first
> guess.  I reboot the box, and call the service vendor and they look and
> sure enough, a couple hours later I get a call from the guy who has
> patiently worked with me on this stuff and he said, "It did it again."
> I can't believe this, but sure enough, the system logs show the
> controller tripping up and killing the system. again.
>
> So, they tell me, "That does it, you are getting the upgrade kit".  They
> send me out the deluxe edition, complete with new disks, array
> pre-created and preloaded with the new OS, as the old array won't be
> readable on the new array controller.  The kit is actually pretty
> decent, they have obviously spent a bit of time planning on having
> people field-upgrade these what were supposed to be "sealed" boxes, and
> changing cards in computers, of course, hasn't been an issue for
> me...well, ever.
>
> It's something of a pain, though, as we basically have to rebuild the
> box from scratch, and reconfigure it as the old system was (and hope we
> got everything right the first time...which we did by the time the third
> box was upgraded).  While we are upgrading the first one, though,
> another one died on us...leading us to think we've got an uptime-related
> issue.
>
> So at this point, I've got three of the boxes upgraded with new firmware
> (and a new version of the OS to go along with it).  The fourth box, I
> offered to test the NEXT new Craptec firmware on.  Curiously, the
> version number on the new firmware is SMALLER than the last "This is it"
> version.  Yes, you could feel my support contact rolling his eyes when
> he told me that.
>
> Do note that every step of the way, they are sending me new FIRMWARE,
> not new OS drivers.  They are having trouble working around the bugs in
> the hardware.  THE CARD IS CRAP.  THEY KNOW IT.
>
>
> Tell me again how wonderfully it is working on your FreeBSD system.  No,
> better idea, don't.  Save your breath.  All I will believe at this point
> is you haven't seen a problem...yet.  Maybe this card doesn't suck as
> bad as the ones we got in these four machines.  Maybe it just sucks
> differently.
>
>
> Nick.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, S H <shbulkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi misc,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an
> >> Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD. B I completely understand
> why
> >> Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the
> GENERIC
> >> kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed
> to
> >> create the best driver possible.
> >>
> >> My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in
> it,
> >> thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system
> running
> >> OpenBSD if I can. B So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with
> this
> >> card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in
> >> comparison to how it runs on FBSD...
> >>
> >> I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for
> > the
> >> upcoming release.
> >>
> >> Shawn

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