On Friday 06 August 2010 07:31:45 Marc Espie wrote: > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:49:07PM +0000, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:36:17PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > > > Is there any useful documentation that explains how you're supposed to > > > write C code and what's changed under the i18n New World Order? From > > > your message, it sounds like we're going to have to rewrite nearly all > > > of our user-space code... > > > > Not only does switching to unicode require a lot of work, but it > > requires perpetual, unending work. Unicode has the foolish goal of > > including all known characters, so every time a country invents a new > > currency symbol, for example, the unicode fonts (such as DejaVu) must be > > updated to include the symbol and the C library has to be updated to > > recognize that the symbol is printable, and so on. It requires constant > > maintenance. > > So what ? human languages are complicated. It's great that finally, some > large proportion of humanity is not ignored. > > Your view is so narrow-minded, this is mind-boggling. > > Do you realize that almost 1 billion people live in India ? and more than > that in China ? Do you think there is proper support for the languages of > those people outside of unicode ? (hint: even there, it's tough. If you > have time, check the logs of qt, see all the fixes about accents and other > diacritics marks in languages you may never have heard off... which often > are the native tongues of 10s of MILLIONS of people in the world). > > > But it's even worse, because unicode also violates the principle > > (established by Alan Turing in 1936) that any two characters should be > > humanly distinguishable "at a glance". This has led to the invention of > > punycode for translating unicode strings into humanly distinguishable > > ASCII strings. But then why did we switch from ASCII to unicode in the > > first place? > > Stay in your backwaters county, redneck. > > Anyways, you're a troll, and you're not really relevant. > > Rest assured that OpenBSD developers are interested in better i18n support. > It goes slow, because it's a tough problem, and yeah, we don't want to > create security issues, and yeah, we have to be really, really careful > about a lot of things. > > Don't like it ? feel free to leave. > > Ou, si tu prifhres, va te faire voir ailleurs... ;-)
Thank you Marc. I started to write something twice but I devolved into much less useful language, talking about this. I'm going to keep this handy, for future such conversations, see if I can expand it a bit. I begin to think that this is uniquely an American thing, not understanding about the rest of the world and computer usage. Despite the added complexity it's a wonderful thing, making computers mold to people rather than the other way. -- STeve Andre' Disease Control Warden Dept. of Political Science Michigan State University A day without Windows is like a day without a nuclear incident.
