On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:55 AM, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:47:18 -0600 fred <f...@blakemfg.com> wrote: >> >> I restored the dialer group to /dev/tty01 and added the user to the >> dialer group as Nick suggested. It still doesn't work but the >> response is different now. I believe there is a cable problem now. >> The cable works with a Sun Ultra 10 but not with the PC running >> openbsd. >> >> Thank you for the help. > > Keeping with Nick's suggestion of not doing this as root or sudo, > another option is to use /etc/fbtab to *temporarily* change ownership or > permissions.
Traditional (read: ancient) BSDs (such as 4.1 and 4.2 -- I'm not talking about *recent* BSDs, mind you, I'm talking about BSD4.1 and BSD4.2 running on a Vax 780) had tip setgid to group 'uucp', with the locking system (i.e., files in a directory owned by uucp:uucp) used by all modem-using apps setgid uucp as well (i.e., uucico, cu, tip), as well as providing some form of access control to the modems (by ownership permissions on the device) so that j-random person couldn't just talk to the modem (since you could make tip do things like dial the modem when you connect, etc). That way users could use the modems when UUCP traffic was idle, and vice versa, and you didn't have to worry about collisions. Arguably the "right" thing to do is something similar, but that would involve an audit of 'tip' and 'cu' and probably a redesign of the whole damn thing. Something to consider doing once the infant is in college and I've retired... This ends out history lesson for the day, and we return you to our normal discourse (and hopefully not more of the recent spate of trolls). Sean
