On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:22:37AM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 07:16:27 +0100 Otto Moerbeek <o...@drijf.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 09:48:29PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 18:45:13 -0700 (MST) Diana Eichert > > > <deich...@wrench.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Really, I meant, Where would Carmen San Diego find a > > > > Lemote Yeeloong in the US? > > > > > > > > diana > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering when Loongson based systems would start showing up, > > > but the following was a wonderful surprise: > > > > > > http://www.lemote.com/english/index.html > > > > > > "The world's first laptop which contains completely free > > > software. All system source files(BIOS, kernel, drivers > > > etc.) are free , no close firmware needed.High performance. Tests > > > show that our platform gets the best performance for > > > 7"-9"ultra mobile laptops. ... " > > > > > > > > > Any vendor that puts the above on their home page, and lives up to > > > it, deserves support. > > > > > > The Dutch Tekmote company sells them for under EUR 350 including > > > shipping and VAT, and they seem to ship worldwide. I'd guess > > > there's no > > > > Small correction: the price mentioned are without VAT and shipping. > > > > Ooops! --That will teach me to try reading the Neeeddderrlunds! > > Here's the English version > http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/ > > > One thing you might want to note is the pricing at Tekmote is about > double the suggested prices. > > The other thing you might want to note is Tekmote claims to have a > Yeeloong model with a Loongson 2F 900MHz and 10" displays, but the > manufacturer specs state 800MHz and 8.9" displays?
There are two models. I have the 10" model. It really has a 10" screen, but indeed it runs at 800MHz. Also, while a little video hole is there, the camera hardware seems to be absent or not connected. The 8.9" version does have a working camera. Dmesg of my machine below. > > http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-003-B > > versus > > http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html > > > > > If you are surprised the little machine exists, you might also be > > surprised by these urls: > > > > It wasn't a complete surprise... I've been drooling over Miod's CVS log > messages on source-changes@ > > > > http://www.openbsd.org/loongson.html > > and > > http://www.drijf.net/pictures/lemote/ > > > > Miod did the big bulk of work, he had to do some of his magic to get > > this working facing very nasty processor bugs. Matthieu had X working > > in a breeze and I did assorted things here and there, fixing a gcc > > propolice bug that potentially could harm other platforms as well > > being the most important one. > > > > If you want to move things forward, please get jasper@ a machine. We > > need ports! > > > > -Otto > > > > I'm curious if the processor bugs were with the Loongson 2E or 2F ? 2F for sure, 2E I don't know. One of the problems here is that no errata are published. > > For notes, I've already started the process of trying to contact Lemote > to see about *ahem* availability of their products, but I won't make any > promises my wallet can't keep (Sorry Kurt). > > For full system and ports bulk builds (i.e. OpenBSD infrastructure), the > Yeeloong netbook/laptop is not the best choice. It seems the Fuloong 2F > would be a better choice (size/power/heat), and Lemote also seems to > have some rather interesting motherboards which could be even better. > > http://www.lemote.com/english/fuloong.html > > http://www.lemote.com/english/motherboard.html > > jon Bulk building does not equal working on ports to make them work first. I can image Jasper wanting to work on the road on this. See want.html. -Otto [ using 341904 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.7-beta (GENERIC) #2: Thu Feb 4 09:17:29 CET 2010 o...@rocal:/usr/src/sys/arch/loongson/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1073741824 (1024MB) avail mem = 1044283392 (995MB) mainbus0 at root cpu0 at mainbus0: STC Loongson2F CPU 796 MHz, STC Loongson2F FPU cpu0: cache L1-I 64KB D 64KB 4 way, L2 512KB 4 way clock0 at mainbus0: ticker on int5 using count register bonito0 at mainbus0: memory and PCI-X controller, rev. 1 pci0 at bonito0 bus 0 rl0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 5, address 00:23:8b:f2:b4:5b rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY smfb0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "Silicon Motion LynxEM+" rev 0xb0 wsdisplay0 at smfb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) ohci0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "NEC USB" rev 0x44: irq 7, version 1.0 ehci0 at pci0 dev 9 function 1 "NEC USB" rev 0x05: irq 7 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "NEC EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 glxpcib0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 "AMD CS5536 ISA" rev 0x03: rev 3 isa0 at glxpcib0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 mcclock0 at isa0 port 0x70/2: mc146818 or compatible pciide0 at pci0 dev 14 function 2 "AMD CS5536 IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <ST9160310AS> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ohci1 at pci0 dev 14 function 4 "AMD CS5536 USB" rev 0x02: isa irq 11, version 1.0, legacy support ehci1 at pci0 dev 14 function 5 "AMD CS5536 USB" rev 0x02: isa irq 11 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 "AMD EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 "AMD OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 umass0 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "SanDisk Cruzer Micro" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus0 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: <SanDisk, Cruzer Micro, 8.01> SCSI0 0/direct removable sd0: 3839MB, 512 bytes/sec, 7862911 sec total umass1 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic USB2.0-CRW" rev 2.00/58.87 addr 2 umass1: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus1 at umass1: 2 targets, initiator 0 sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: <Generic-, Multi-Card, 1.00> SCSI0 0/direct removable sd1: drive offline urtw0 at uhub1 port 4 "Realtek RTL8187B" rev 2.00/2.00 addr 3 urtw0: RTL8187B rev E, address 00:17:c4:4e:09:d7 vscsi0 at root scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root pmon bootpath: /dev/fs/e...@wd0/bsd -> wd0 boot device: wd0 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
