Nick,

Good point.

Nevertheless, I do believe that software-based RAID -with all its
limitations- is still better than just a single disk. Error recovery from
failing disks is not trivial, but I guess it still improves your chances to
recover information rather quickly, in the cases where you can't afford HW
RAID boards.

The daily/altroot strategy sounds good to me, but I tend to see it as a
backup solution instead of a high-availability solution. In my system
requirements, downtime is an issue.

Thanks for your feedback.

Bdab

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Nick Holland
<n...@holland-consulting.net>wrote:

> B Da Bahia wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a newbie to OpenBSD, and I'm trying to install a new system with all
> > partitions (/, et al) on a software RAID 1 discipline.
> >
> >>From the FAQs, I  see that you don't recommend using RAIDframe + ccd for
> new
> > installs.
> >
> > But in the softraid manpage, you say that "There is no boot support at
> this
> > time for any disciplines".
> >
> > If by any means possible I'd like to have the / partition on RAID 1 as
> well.
> >
> > What leads me to the question: what should I do?
> >
> > Any tutorials that folks could recommend to have all partitions on RAID
> 1?
> >
> > thanks in advance!
>
> think about this a while.
>
> Let's assume you have a PC with a semi-typical BIOS (pretending there is
> such a thing).  You have two disks, wd0 and wd1.  You soft-mirror them.
>
> wd0 fails, but is still in the machine.  Do you really think your BIOS
> will magically jump over a dead but recognizable disk to boot off a good
> disk? I'd not bet on that.  Worse, what if the disk PARTLY dies, and the
> system STARTS to boot from wd0?  In that case, I can promise you it will
> NOT say "oh, that didn't work, let's try wd1".
>
> Software mirroring of the boot on PCs has some serious limitations in
> general (I've seen HW RAID bumble this, too, for what it is worth).
>
> What are you storing on your root partition that changes so often you
> need to have it on a RAID system?
>
> There are very few places where mirroring the boot partition in software
> on a PC-like machine is superior to using the /altroot system that's in
> place, and a few places where /altroot is superior to mirroring.
> Think of a firewall...you make a change to pf.conf, it doesn't quite work,
> you change it back, but can't recall what it was originally...there it is
> sitting on your /altroot partition as it was late last night (ok, this
> particular example is solvable in other ways too...)
>
> Nick.

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