On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:21:07PM -0400, Tom Smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:29 PM, armpit <mailto...@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > > > > > OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use that > > the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their generosity... > > > That's nonsense. You can't beg for donations and CD sales, time and time > again, and then turn around and tell the same people, that you're begging to > give more, that what they want does not matter. "Your contributions are > pathetic." I think something like that was recently posted to misc. Well, if > what end-users want matters not to OpenBSD developers and what end-users > give is "pathetic", then OpenBSD developers should not complain when > end-users don't buy more CDs or donate more money. Can't have it both ways. > I use and like OpenBSD, but nonsensical statements such as this need to > stop, this is silly and it benefits no one.
On the contrary . . . it's people/users like you who feel that simply because they use and enjoy something, that their voice is worthwhile. The silliness is coming from you, sir. If you were paying for the "service," then perhaps. In this case, you just happen to use something that others develop for themselves. That's the difference. Just because something is made available to all does not mean that it is for all. I don't understand your comment about oBSD "begging" for donations. Recent posts about $$ have come from devs (that do not get paid) and laymen (that do not get paid). We like it enough to see it continue and monatary suppliments help. DO NOT DONATE IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO. Just like pbs, it'll likely be here tomorrow for our British comedy needs (you know who you are). theo@ is not and, as far as I've seen never, running a fundraiser. He certainly understands the situation he is in, but does not force his issues upon anyone. This has been his postion and to "beg" for donations is inconsistant with that postition; somehting he's aware of. The fact that devs happen to take our suggestions/comments seriously is NOT because they owe you/me/us anything. The fact that something is posted to this list, does not make it an official position/announcemnet from oBSD. I would and could go on further, but only if requested. Tom, I hope that you continue to enjoy oBSD. I will try to make sure that it is there for you every six months. Long Live Monty Python!
