Hi Donald, I'm slowly starting to get the whole picture here.. I'll start with updating my in-memory copy of the FAQ.
Thanks, Bill On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 09:13 -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Bill Maas <b...@stsx.org> wrote: > Hi Donald, > > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 06:33 -0400, Donald Allen wrote: > [...] > > > I had nothing to do with writing the documentation and so > have no ax > > to grind, but FAQ items 8.21 and 14.16 look pretty explicit > to me. > > [...] > > 8.21: OpenBSD does support journaling fses (ext3 at least), it > just > doesn't support fs journaling. > > Maybe 14.16 could do with an addition like this one (or maybe > not > because it's too specific): > > 'Ext3 partitions are mounted as ext2, i.e. no journaling is > done. In > fact, none of the OpenBSD's filesystem tools pay any attention > to an > existing journal. For that reason, an attempt to have an ext3 > partition > mounted read-write at boot time through /etc/fstab will cause > a > "filesystem not clean" error. This can be circumvented by > having the > device mounted read-only at boot time, and remounting it > read-write > manually afterwards.' > > I agree that it's all a bit nitpickerish (if that's an English > word), > > It is now > > > but the fact that ext3 fses mount without trouble can be > confusing. > > But you must have fibbed to mount about the fs type and mounted it -t > ext2fs, which is not true. ext2 being a proper subset of ext3, I'm not > surprised that the system didn't say anything. > > I cited 14.16 because it says ext2 is supported and does not mention > ext3. If ext3 were supported, I'm quite confident the FAQ would have > said so. Given that, I personally would not have considered mounting > an ext3 filesystem writeable with OpenBSD, for fear of getting the > ext2 part of the filesystem out of whack with the journal. In other > words, I think what you are trying to do may well be hazardous to the > health of your ext3 filesystem. Given my conservative bent in my old > age (having spent many, many years finding strange and wonderful ways > to get computers in undesirable states and watching others do the > same), if I really needed to mount that fs writeable with OpenBSD for > some reason, I'd boot a Linux rescue cd first and convert the fs to > ext2. My $.02. > > /Don > > > > > Bill
