On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: <e.yu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 2009/6/2 patrick keshishian <pkesh...@gmail.com>:
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: <e.yu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are
many
>>> people, who are just starting up, and they could be of some help, if they
>>> knew what to do. I think it would be a great idea of having a general list
of
>>> what needs to be done
>>
>> You mean something like the bug database?
>
> Yes, but the tracker is about bugs, there is no such category as
> enhancement proposal. Maybe, just include such "class"? And i feel
> there still is a need for
> a list of what needs to be done, and who is responsible (think most active

personally, fixing existing bugs should be on top of "what needs to be
done". writing new code, with new bugs should definitely come after
fixing existing issues.

> developers) for what subsystem. That will bring more openness to the
> development process, and it actually helps. OpenBSD was the first one to
> have public anon cvs. Having such tools is a normal way of communication in
> a big open source project, isn't it?
> Don't get me wrong, i'm not requesting or demanding anything, i'm just
> throwing me ideas, hoping it would help the community become involved.
> I know many (three to four, actually ;)) happy OpenBSD users, who would
> love to contribute, but they don't know where to start with. Reading
> code that already exist, then writing some new - that's how it always
> works, but when
> you are unexperienced and just want to give it a try it really helps
> when someone
> points out what to do for you, so you just have to find a way to do
> it. It's also
> always good to know that someone needs your code, your work, not that it
will
> be thrown away, it helps motivating.

one of the obsd developers recently (yesterday maybe?) said something
to the effect of before writing code one should read a lot of code. i
agree.

fixing bugs should be a good place for anyone really interested in
improving the system they use on daily basis. new code is sexy. but if
that's what you are after, you probably don't care too much about the
base system.

> People are all different, and for
> some of them B this is important. Also, one brain is good, ten are much
> better, so if
> by any chance i can get an experienced kernel hacker review my idea before
> i actually code it, i would greatly appreciate that.

I don't mean to speak for any developer, but, i am pretty sure an
"experienced kernel hacker" would much rather see code than spend time
discussing "ideas", or at least some proof-of-concept code. spending
time discussing something with someone, who after all it's said and
done, may end up never get it coded, could turn out to be a colossal
waste of time and energy.

just my 2-cents of worthless US fiat money.

--patrick

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