On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org>wrote:
> > > If you want to speculate do it privately. I know at least Wim is > > > willing to answer questions. A public mailinglist is the last place > > > you should be speculating about serious acusations of this magnitude. > > > > > > Please stop > > > > > > Floor > > > > > > > > I second this . . . while I love a good drama, this is not good for the > > project's image and, more importantly, that which we all appreciate, the > > project itself. > > No, what hurts the project is when I get pissed off and walk away from > doing OpenBSD development because I have no income from OpenBSD > because a reseller who owes money is not giving it to us > > ... while you guys stand up for a guy who handed you a beer from the > other side of a table at an open source conference he got into for > free because of association with our project, which was draped with > OpenBSD/OpenSSH shirts which the project never got a cent for, while > selling you a Soekris he got all the profits from, and he now has a > web site saying that all the money owed OpenBSD is stuck in T-Shirts? > And was spent on promoting OpenBSD? When we never said that the money > was to be used that way? He's poured money into the project, or > he's poured it out into his own pocket? > > And which fellow built himself a new house? > > I'm sure glad I do OpenBSD for myself and my friends rather than for > undeserving ungrateful people like you. > > The project's image? I think there are more important things. > Yes, the project's image. The responses you're getting . . . the one's you're responding to . . . the one's you claim are from Wim defenders (BTW - mine are not. I'm on oBSD's side) are the result of this issue taking place on m...@. If your decision was to stop European orders, then that is what we have to live with. But, this issue is going way beyond the basic user . . . but if it's on misc@, then the basic user is going to talk. Your ego is in tact. The points you are making are clear and reasonable. I was not attacking you or the project . . . both of which, I have great respect. All that I and, I suspect, Floor are saying is that this has to leave the general discussion because all it seems to be doing is causing folks to post angry messages about things that they don't/can't know about (except for wim and theo). I am not telling you what you should/should not talk about. I merely suggest that it might be more prudent to leave those whom you feel need not know certain details out of it. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com
