Damn, this is degenerating into mud slinging bollocks, what with "full value", owed for CD Sales , transfers of undisclosed amounts - some clear facts would be nice, this sounds like waffle.
1. There appear to be no contracts, so Theo and Wim or the bodies they represent or act for, have no written agreement as to what the involved parties were supposed to do, if that is true then that is a major governance short coming and whoever let this situation come to pass needs a good kicking, in essence you've gotten the fucking mess you deserve and who ever is responsible for openbsd's legal governance (if anyone) should stand up and take the blame and sort it out. 2. Because there is no contract, now we descend into He said, I said and other equivalent bollocks that really no-one can verify or substantiate as there appear to be no documents or agreements or contracts that we can verify against. 3. If KD85 is delinquent in payments - who are the amounts owed to. is it ? a) The Computer Store for the supply of goods. Which I assumed are covered by some terms and conditions and invoice terms. b) Some legal entity that represents Openbsd, which is owed money for something, what for, it is not exactly clear - is it a revenue share from T-Shirts, Posters, fsking plush toys ? . And where is the agreement covering the terms of this. ? c) Theo personally for something. 4. Donations - I would have assumed they are property of the legal entity which is Openbsd's foundation, so if that entity doesn't account clearly for donations and doesn't maintain some financial accounts that reflect where,who,when and what it was used for - then you fucking well deserve this mess. *years* in paying the full value - what the hell does this mean ?,full-value ??? ,surely there is a declared invoice value which gets paid, you can't really retrospectively change the invoices. If the Computer store is owed money , then there should be outstanding invoice amounts - so either there are outstanding amounts or there are not- if this is some weirdo retrospective thing where one party wants to now get extra payment for something that was never invoiced for and is not covered by something verfiable , then good luck to you. This is a mess and worse it's a stupid mess, and forming up blindly to support one party or the other is stupid too. No agreements, less then clear facts, mud slinging == a recipe for disaster Someone get in the middle and mediate, someone who both parties trust, and get it sorted as this is going downhill fast.
