Try writing hardware drivers on vmware and let me know how it went.  A
good example is mpi; when we were developing that thing vmware blew up
because it couldn't respond to a configuration request.  Simply put the
vitalization software only emulates certain parts of the hardware and as
soon as you touch areas that are within the spec but (poorly)
unimplemented the vitalization software goes tits up.

That said, tell me how to write a device driver for vmware so that I can
write a device driver for the host; I'd love to see that API.  Oh wait
you were just making shit up.  Reading through you sales mini-rant tells
me that you have no clue whatsoever regarding hardware/driver development.

qemu is a very nice development tool.  I use it a lot to develop code
that does *NOT* touch hardware.  For example softraid is developed on my
laptop and then tested on a qemu host on said laptop.  When it is
debugged enough I'll move to real hardware to see if there are any
differences.

Problem with virtualization is that it is a security nightmare.  I can't
begin to imagine running that stuff for anything but development.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:22:33PM -0700, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Those things crash more often than windows 3.11
>
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 2:01 PM, bofh <goodb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Marco Peereboom <sl...@peereboom.us> 
>> wrote:
>>> Still doesn't allow you to plug in cables; move cards around, insert 
>>> a
>>> cd etc.  Writing/debugging drivers remotely sucks.  One also doesn't 
>>> get
>>> any of the hints from the hardware like leds blinking fan noise etc.
>>
>> Hey, you can do all that in a VM!!!
>>
>> <runs and ducks>
>>
>> 8-)
>>
>> -- 
>> http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
>> "This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity."
>> -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
>> "Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or
>> internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks
>> factory where smoking on the job is permitted."  -- Gene Spafford
>> learn french:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0&feature=related

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