Lets not forget Debian maintainers who think entropy is optional in
encryption.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Henning Brauer <lists-open...@bsws.de>wrote:

> * Douglas A. Tutty <dtu...@vianet.ca> [2008-12-23 05:45]:
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 02:41:08AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
> > > * Jussi Peltola <pe...@pelzi.net> [2008-12-11 20:52]:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:30:50AM -0800, Jeff_1981 wrote:
> >
> > > > That said, OpenBSD base services are extremely secure, compared to
> the
> > > > competition, when properly configured and patched. Note that no
> security
> > > > audits are done to software in the ports tree; you're on your own
> with
> > > > 3rd party software.
> > >
> > > many thing from ports are patched or otherwise modified for security
> > > reasons, and many things are deliberately NOT in ports due to security
> > > considerations. nontheless there is truth in your above statement;
> > > averaged things from ports are not on the same level as openbsd.
> >
> > Has anybody done any comparisons to see how things from ports
> > (especially commone things like firefox) compare to the competition's
> > packages (rpms, debs, whatever)?  I know that the ports don't get
> > audited like base, but then I don't think anyone else's does either.
> >
> > In other words, if you need a box with multiple third-party apps, (lets
> > say that none of them are server apps), (eg, firefox, a window manager or
> > DTE, mutt, LaTex, gv, a pdf reader), which box would be more secure
> > (with the same admin): OpenBSD with ports or a Linux (e.g. Debian)?
>
> easy - OpenBSD. Linux doesn't have propolice, randomized malloc/mmap,
> randomized library addresses etc yadda yadda yadda.
>
> crappy applications are still crappy applications on OpenBSD, but
> worse on pretty much any other OS.
>
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