Ryan Smith wrote:
You have assumed that because I have used some resource for new users that I
have not read any of the official documentation. This would be untrue. In
fact, INSTALL.i386 was the first thing I read while grabbing the ISO, but
since I have had no problems with a larger bootable partition with Linux, I
anticipated no problems with the larger partition sizes recommended on the
aforementioned website. The minimum partition sizes from the FAQ are for a
substantially smaller hard drive, and, obviously, scaling the sizes by the
almost order of magnitude of difference would not have been a good idea.
There are other supplemental resources out there, and not all of them are
bad.
Thanks anyway.
Hi Ryan,
You may or may not have a hardware problem, or something else. I think
in all fairness people tried to help you. What was pointed out to you a
few times, Linux != OpenBSD and reading the FaQ on OpenBSD and all are
very valid point. No offense intended by anyone here really. But just
look at it this way.
- The FAQ point out not to use root bigger then 504MB in some old case,
witch may not apply to you.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
You use 10GB.
- The FAQ does point out that boot.conf is not required and you use one.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#PXE
- The FAQ said not to asked for help if you don't use the generic BSD
and there ins't any need for custom kernel and you built your own from
cvs, not even trying the snapshots one.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#WhySrc
- You said no explain of your problem was on google, but a very quick
search show differently.
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-01/2830.html
- You said you read the documentations, but you refer and justify it by
pointing to openbsd101.com
- You explain that your system works with your setup on Linux, so there
isn't any reason it wouldn't work on OpenBSD.
"I have had no problems with a larger bootable partition with Linux".
And a few more.
Again Ryan, I am not trying to dig a hole under you at all. I am really
trying to help you and a few others as well did.
But all that we see if many and even recurring Linux behaviors, not
what's expected with OpenBSD to fist read the FAQ and then follow their
details and if all fails, then asked for help.
When asked, each times, it doesn't follow the OpenBSD way and even try
to justify it to others as it's OK with Linux, so it should be OK here.
But all these pitfall have been seen time and time again and a lots of
people are more then welling to help you, but at the same time, none
want to waste their time on the same old issues that may apply.
That's why all these questions and answer show it as justify too.
Again, please don't take it the wrong way here.
You will find help great, but you will also see that people will expect
you to do you share too AND follow the FAQ for good reason.
Now, you may well have a legitimate problem, I can't say you do not.
However, you shouldn't be offended when people try to help you and they
point out to you what's expected and standard on OpenBSD and asking you
if you did and follow it as well.
The documentations provided in the FAQ and on the man page is really
second to none oppose to Linux as you may be use too.
So, take the help provided as such and not as an attack on you.
However at the same time, if the basic advise provided and written for
very good reason are not follow, then don't expect people to not point
it out to you.
Again, it may or may not fix your problem, but no one will waste time
trying to help, if you don't even do the basic requirement pointed out
in the FAQ.
I for one tried to help you and I thought the problem was what I pointed
out to you.
I still would like to make sure the standard steps of the FAQ are follow
and it may help. Or not in this case.
I can only tell you that you will have way more chance to get help if
you leave behind you, what you may have done on Linux if you want to use
OpenBSD and learn to do it the OpenBSD way. It will serve you well in
the long run and if you use Linux as a way to justify it's good, you can
expect some flame at time as history proved it time and time again. The
archive is full of it.
Again, I wish you the best of luck and if you stick with it, it will not
regret it. But start the right way and you will be much happier.
All that said, I hope you can read this in good term and for what it is
really. It's not a judgment on your person what so ever.
However you will be expected to do your share first and that's why all
the questions and reference were provided to you by a few so far.
Now to go back to your real problem.
If all the standard setup as explain in the FAQ are done as such,
without exception and it still doesn't work out of the box.
Then providing the details as you did with the error message and the
dmesg, then /etc/fstab may be as well in the process, someone better
then I might give you a clue as to what it is, or if a real problem, you
might get a patch to test and fix your problem.
However, don't forget that it's done by people that do it on their own
time and they really are not required to do so either.
But you have much greater chance to get help and if that's a real
problem, to get it fix, if you follow the FAQ to the letter and provide
the details that might help them help you.
Anyway, I just wanted to take a little more time to provide you more to
the inside mentality of this list before you go down the wrong path with
people that really try to help.
I for one suggested to you what I thought might be the problem, and
pointed out the pitfall seen time and time again.
Does it mean I fix your problem, no and I guess I may not have the
answer you are seeking. I tried based on what I understand of your problem.
if it doesn't help, then I am sorry. Someone else might have something
of value to add that might help.
Or you may simply have a real legit problem.
As long as your bios setting are fine, you have the latest bios as well
for your board as sometime in the pass as well in the archive it address
some weird problem and that you follow the standard setup as describe in
the FAQ, if you still have a problem, them you can submit a bug report
and you may get it fix at some point. But if you don't, I can tell you
that most likely you will have to leave with it for a long time.
Anyway, this is long as I wanted to make sure to explain it the best I
could and to make sure you don't receive it wrong as some of your email
reply may include some frustration to people trying to help you.
Stick with it, it's worth the time, just expect to be asked to do your
share too.
Regards,
Daniel
PS: If all I suggested to you don't help, I am sorry, and I am running
out of idea for now anyway on this specific problem. May someone else
help you better.
