I used Acronis (like Ghost) to get an image and converted it with
vmware converter to a virtual machine. but the file system was not
useable after this procedure.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Zlfar M. E. Johnson
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> Thanks for the replay.  I was not sure which man page you were referring to,
but I took a quick glance at installboot.
>  I have often cloned linux systems at work with rsync.  I have also done
bare-bone restores using system-rescue cd and backups from our backup system.
I thought it would be interesting to see how others do it with openbsd.
>  What exactly are you referring to " Diskimage route it's not so easy."?
Are you referring to cloning the system?  Similar to this example
http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/tech/0112/msg00079.html
>  What tool does one use to Diskimage the system?
>  You could probably try this tool if I understand what you mean by
"Diskimage" http://sanbarrow.com/moa-video-vdiskmanager-as-ghost.html
>
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Fabian Heusser
>  Sent: 27. febrzar 2008 17:47
>  To: Zlfar M. E. Johnson
>  Subject: Re: P2V with VMWare -> "ERR M"
>
>  Sorry, I refered to the second example in installboot(8) :
>
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=installboot&apropos=0&sektion=0&;
manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html
>
>  It's the same as this step from your linked FAQ
>  # cp /usr/mdec/boot /mnt/boot
>  # /usr/mdec/installboot -v /mnt/boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0
>
>  Yes a howto would be nice, for windows there are many, for linux some,
>  and for Openbsd not so many.
>  But as Nick said, it's realy simple if you go the dump/restore route.
>  It's 90% percent of the FAQ you are referring. But If you go the
>  Diskimage route it's not so easy.
>
>  In the FAQ, they restore first / and boot into single user mode and
>  then restore the rest.
>  Does somone know if it makes any difference if i restore all
>  partitions in one step and then booting in the finished restore?
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Zlfar M. E. Johnson
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >  Did you use http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#Backup to restore your
old
>  >  box to a vmware server image.  The only part I am confused by is " At
the end
>  >
>  > I installed the boot loader as described in the manpages with success."
What
>  >  man page are you referring to?  What steps did you use to restore the
boot
>  >  loader?  Just curious.  Could be good fodder for setting up a wiki or
howto
>  >  for transferring openbsd physical setups to virtual setups on vmware.
>  >
>  >
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>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
>  >  Fabian Heusser
>  >  Sent: 26. febrzar 2008 23:48
>  >  To: misc@openbsd.org
>  >  Subject: Re: P2V with VMWare -> "ERR M"
>  >
>  >  Nick, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
>  >
>  >  As you successfully detected, i have done some brute force with no
luck.
>  >
>  >  Thank you for your tip about dump/restore, i applied it with success.
>  >  With the help of a OpenBSD live CD i managed to do some instant dump &
>  >  restore over the network.
>  >  For this i used a command sequence like the following for each
partition:
>  >
>  >  # mount /dev/sd0a /mnt/hd1
>  >  # cd /mnt/hd1
>  >  # ssh 192.168.1.52 dump -0f - /dev/sd0a | restore -rvf -
>  >  # cd /
>  >  # umount /dev/sd0a
>  >
>  >  At the end I installed the boot loader as described in the manpages
>  >  with success.
>  >
>  >  What was confusing me was that "fdisk /dev/sd0c" returns the same as
>  >  the proper "fdisk /dev/sd0" which mixed up my idea of the things.
>  >
>  >  Fabian
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Fabian Heusser wrote:
>  >  > Hello
>  >  >
>  >  > I have an old box (3.6) which makes a lot of noise, so i like to
>  >  > virtualize it. I made an Image with acronis and converted it with
>  >  > vmware converter.
>  >  > When i start the virtual machine "Loading... ERR M" is shown. (dmesg
>  >  > at the bottom)
>  >  >
>  >  > I loaded cd36.iso as cdrom and at the boot prompt tried the
following:
>  >  >
>  >  >> machine boot hd0b -> ERR M
>  >
>  >  I'm surprised you get THAT error, but it is a nonsense command.
>  >
>  >  >> boot hd0a:/bsd -> Invalid argument failed(22). will try /bsd
>  >  > also with hd0b, hd0c
>  >
>  >  um.  did you really think that /bsd might be on the b, c, or d
>  >  partitions??
>  >
>  >  > if i boot with the cd, select shell and run the following
>  >  > # mount /dev/sd0c /mnt
>  >  > i get "Inappropriate filetype or format". also with /dev/sd0a - d
>  >
>  >  I'd *hope* you can't mount sd0c like that.
>  >
>  >  > If i run
>  >  > # cp /usr/mdec/boot /boot
>  >  > # /usr/mdec/installboot -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0
>  >  > i get the following output:
>  >  > -----------------8<----------------------
>  >  > boot: /boot
>  >  > proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot
>  >  > device: /dev/rsd0c
>  >  > /usr/mdec/biosboot: entry point 0
>  >  > proto bootblock size 512
>  >  > installboot: cross-device install
>  >  > -----------------8<----------------------
>  >  > but the error persists.
>  >
>  >  You couldn't read the file system, so you figured you would just
>  >  run a utility to alter a random sector someplace on the disk.
>  >
>  >  Did you notice the little error message?  "cross-device install"???
>  >
>  >  Read the man page, read the FAQ, and think about that command.
>  >
>  >  > Does anyone have an idea what i'm doing wrong?
>  >
>  >  Almost everything so far.
>  >  You can't just type random commands without understanding
>  >  what you are saying to the computer.  What you are doing is
>  >  very, very dangerous.
>  >
>  >  If you want to get some idea what went wrong, boot a CD, and
>  >  do a disklabel sd0 and fdisk sd0, see what that tells you.
>  >
>  >  There was obviously something that went very wrong with your
>  >  imaging transfer process, which doesn't surprise me, the
>  >  process of migrating OpenBSD is so simple, it is hard to get
>  >  anyone worried about making a special tool, 'specially since
>  >  it wouldn't have this kind of flexibility.  Quit using special
>  >  tools, and use the OS.
>  >
>  >  SIMPLE way:
>  >  dump(8) each existing partition to a file, move the file,
>  >  then restore(8) the files to the partitions of the new
>  >  disk.  Install your boot loader (PROPERLY this time), and
>  >  done.
>  >
>  >  And YES, I am being deliberately vague about how to do this.
>  >  You need to spend some time with the man pages and the FAQ
>  >  and thinking about how things work, not magic commands to type.
>  >
>  >  The PROPER way of doing this, however, being this is a many
>  >  year old, unmaintained install, is to build a new 4.2 or 4.3
>  >  system, install the apps, and transfer the data files.
>  >  I'm guessing it is a screwed up system, or it would have been
>  >  properly maintained and be running 4.2 now.  So, why would
>  >  you want to blindly migrate a mess to new hardware?
>  >
>  >  Nick.
>  >
>  >
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