Because the Athlon runs at 3.5 GHz and gives my wife a headache.  Most
daily apps (mainly email, doc processing and printing) will run fine on
a lesser box.

Doug.


On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 10:54:31AM -0800, Lord Sporkton wrote:
> I fail to see why you are moving the applications off the Athlon? why
> not just use your apps on the Athlon and ssh to it? it is multi-user
> after all
> 
> On 30/01/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
> > away.  The resultant system will need to run OpenBSD so I'm asking here
> > for the accumulated wisdom.  The base technology predates my IT
> > experience.
> >
> > My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
> > She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher
> > the frequency, the worse her symptoms.  For example, a VT is better than
> > a regular CRT connected to even a P-II-233 MHZ while a 486DX4-100 is
> > better than the P-II.  Both are far better than my Athlon64 @3.5 GHz.
> > And any CRT is better than any LCD/plasma screen.  Even my Palm Zire (I
> > think 233 MHz) with its ~2"x~3" screen is unsuitable within about 30
> > feet of her.  She can't wear a digital watch.
> >
> > For lack of anything suitable, I have been using my Athlon64 for daily
> > use, with the P-II used for other-machine backup and ssh access to the
> > Athlon64 (one is upstairs, the other is downstairs) for e.g. a quick
> > email check.  My 486 isn't used right now since it only has 32 MB ram
> > and an 850 MB hard drive.  The backup set size right now is around 2 GB.
> >
> > I now have a VT520 which I can put upstairs for those email checks which
> > means I can move the P-II farther away from her.
> >
> > While I want to keep the Athlon64 for serious heavy lifting (graphical
> > web browsing, watching DVDs, burning CDs, etc,) I want to move the main
> > application server function off of it.  The P-II only has 64 MB of ram,
> > is a abused box I rescued (full of cat hair and over-heating).  I would
> > like to get a box (or boxes) that is (are) reliable, run at e.g 133 MHz
> > (certainly less than 200 MHz), with lots of ram, and lots of hard drive
> > space.  Since the apps run on it will be non-graphical, it could be
> > headless, accessed via the VT520 or ssh from the Athlon.
> >
> > I'm thinking that this will be unsuitable for an embedded device like a
> > soekris and more like an older multi-disk server.  I guess I'll have to
> > go to eBay for the hardware since its long gone off any reseller's
> > shelf.  I don't have any experience with anything other than i386 or
> > amd64 so in that line I figure this will be a multiple-CPU 486 or
> > Pentium box.
> >
> > Because the box will be so old, it would have to be one that was popular
> > so that spare parts are readily available, but also one that was well
> > designed and built in the first place.  I can tolerate some down time
> > while I swap out parts but I want to be able to keep spares on hand.  I
> > suppose I could buy 3 complete functioning boxes just for the spares.
> > Looking at the packages lists in the different arches that 4.2 works on,
> > the four possibilities are i386, alpha, sparc, and sparc64.  Since this
> > is a finished room in the basement, not a datacenter, I want the box to
> > do its own hard drive storage and not just be a compute node that is
> > supposed to have a separate box full of drives (unless this is
> > straight-forward).  I'm envisioning something like a 4- or 5U server
> > box.  Rackmounting a single servier is fine since I can make a suitable
> > shelf to simulate a rack.
> >
> > Here's the software that I need to run on the box (beyond what is in 4.2
> > base):
> >
> > vim
> > mc
> > mutt
> > tex
> > python
> > some kind of printfilter to serve my Epson LQ-2080 impact printer.
> >
> >
> > Here's the hardware-type I'll envisioning:
> >
> > Multiple CPU so that multiple apps can run better on limited individual
> > CPUs, running under 200 MHz
> > Probably PCI bus.
> > Paralell port for the printer (or I would just use a USB adapter)
> > USB for future needs
> > serial port for console
> > multi-port serial for terminal(s) and my external 3Com Courier modem.
> > 10 or 10/100 Ethernet
> > Multiple hard drives:  IIRC, the older boxes had 9 GB SCSI drives.  I
> >         don't know if one can plunk new eg. 250 GB SCSI drives in them.
> > SCSI HBA for a tape drive
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions for good old boxes like this that will run modern
> > OpenBSD and be reasonably reliable?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Lawrence
> -Student ID 1028219

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