On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:08:08 -0800, "Marco S Hyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> "Brad Tilley" writes:
>  > performed from the OpenBSD 4.2 install CD. I'll send it to the one
>  > 'ISO Certified' company that agreed to examine it. If they cannot
> 
> You keep throwing around the 'ISO Certified' tag as if it had some
> special meaning.  Certified to what standard?  It makes a difference.
> If they are certified to the 9001 standard, for example, all it means
> is that they have written procedures and they follow them.  That's
> all it means.
> 
> ISO 9001 certification is actually pretty easy to get.  The companies
> that fail to get it are trying to hard.  They come up with procedures
> that sound great but are impossible to follow.  That's not what
> certification means.
> 
> If I have a software company and write up a procedure that says
> "all code will be developed on a laptop while sitting in a Starbucks"
> and actually follow that procedure, then I can be an "ISO Certified"
> company.
> 
> As for disk destruction... I don't know nor pretend to know what can
> and can not be recovered.  Take a look at 
> 
> https://www.dss.mil/portal/ShowBinary/BEA%20Repository/new_dss_internet/isp/odaa/documents/clear_n_san_matrix_06282007_rev_11122007.pdf
> 
> The DSS (Defense Security Service, part of the DoD) calls what you have
> done "clearing" the disk.   It does not "sanitize" the disk.  To sanitize
> you need to either degauss or destroy the disk.

You throw out this document like it proves anything.
I was in the military. I was in Military Intelligence (yes, I know. Hold
the jokes)
I also had some experience with the degaussing and destruction
of disks. This does not prove *anyone* not even a government
can recover the data from a completely overwritten disk.
Not everything the government or the military does is necessary.
Sometimes precautions are taken well above what anyone
might even imagine might be possible.
Sorry if I sound in any way confrontational.
I just would really like to know.

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