On Dec 13, 2007 12:53 PM, Tom Rosso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 9:51 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's really going on is that you are helping them use the non-free > > software, which grants it legitimacy. That is what I object to. > > I don't believe anybody who has followed this thread over the last couple > days could misunderstand your opinion on references to non-free software in > a distribution. But I don't think I've seen a post from a single person on > this mailing list who agrees with that opinion. If I'm wrong, let me know.
That would be because this is BSDLand, whereas Richard lives over there in GPLLand. I'm sure things would be reversed if this thread were to take place over in GPLLand (and it would look even more differently in RedmondLand). I don't actually think Richard is "diss'ing" OpenBSD. That has not been my impression all this while. One big problem (beyond the current discussion) is that people seem to want to throw all the Linux issues onto Richard's shoulders - and I think he clarified pretty well above - if it's a FSF/GNU sponsored program, he'll speak up about it, but otherwise, he'll only speak up if he was asked to. In the last bruhaha about firmware and relicensing - remember this, Richard and Linus don't see eye to eye on things - why would people even link Richard to that issue? And for all those people who keep trying to say that OpenBSD doesn't support ports - we do. If we put it out, that's the support already. But - seriously, as a project, do we need the validation from FSF/Richard? Now, on the other hand, the question for Richard is this - if OpenBSD includes ports (on the CD), which is not an installable option, which the FAQ discourages you from using, how different/worse is this from a linux kernel that allows blobs to be installed? This is, of course, based on the assumption that you can load modules into gnewsense's running kernel. It may be that the option has been turned off (or unable to load tainted modules). If the kernel is compiled to retain the ability to load tainted modules, isn't that just as bad? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk "This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity." -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. "Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted." -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0&feature=related
