On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:44:35AM +0100, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
Le mercredi 12 dC)cembre 2007 C 11:22 -0800, Ted Unangst a C)crit :
On 12/12/07, Mathieu Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To my mind software quality also depends on ease of use. So I
would be
happy to help improve OpenBSD by making it easier to install and
use.
But I don't know if you would be interesting by this kind of
'improvement'. I don't want to waste your time nor mine, so I ask
first.
most developers are convinced the installer is about as easy to
use as
possible. other parts of the system could possibly use some
improvement, but keep in mind that "easy to use" and simple aren't
the
same for many people, and openbsd really values simple.
I agree "easy to use" and sample are not the same for everyone.
That's
why, to my mind, a good installer should provide several methods to
install.
If you like the current way it works, you should be able to continue
with this system. But what if my mum, who has low computer skill,
would
like to install a free, functional and secure system? I think the
software should help her to make the most accurate choices. Because I
think my mum too deserves a reliable operating system. :P
Best regards.
That's all fine, but your mum is probably not an OpenBSD developer.
The main target audience for OpenBSD are the developers. We make what
suits us. And we are not computer users with average or below average
I've always wondered what kind of other projects the OpenBSD
developers are working on these days. When you read through the
OpenBSD lists and docs, you can see clearly that the above is true.
I'm no developer, but I've found openbsd to be a great network
firewall and router. A nice side affect of developers building an OS
that suits them for their needs.
So, if you care to share, what kinds of projects (not OpeBSD itself)
are you developing? (I understand if you can't share, due to employer
placed restrictions.)
skills. That does not mean we like to make things complicated, far
from that. We do however expect our users to have some knowledge and
skills.
Luckily there are a lot of people around that have similar views and
needs as the developers. Any other person or group liking the results
is free to use it for whatever thay want. Maybe to make something
that's easier to install for *their* intended audience. But that
installer probably won't make it into the base system.
Please do not read this as a discouragement to get involved. But if
you want to create something that supposed to go into the base system,
it really should cater for the needs of the main body of users.
-Otto
