Okay, so if we're looking for a list of simple tasks to train
ourselves, PR list is a good place.
At least I've learned something today (mandatory whine : why did we
have to wait the 17th post to see this list mentioned ?).

On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 31.10-08:40, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >[ ... ]
> >>      > Yeah, right.
> >[ ... ]
> >> I don't understand. Is newbies learning new things a waste to you? Do
> >> you think they won't really learn anything unless the patch is
> >> approved? Or will the patches not be subject to peer review? Or are
> >> you worried at who would pass for peer review getting overwhelmed by a
> >> huge volume of poor quality patches?
> >
> >and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the
> >possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most
> >significant barrier to encouraging new/young developers.
>
> Yes, it is a significant problem that we won't hand-hold whiners who
> could by now be digging for things to fix.  There are hundreds of ways
> to self-motivate, but instead we get whine whine whine.
>
> We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from
> outsiders.  That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do
> more than whine whine whine.
>
> Hey, don't blame us if many of you guys are lazy whiners.
>
> STOP telling us that we need to do more than we already do.
>
> If you want to be more involved, _you've_ got to step up to the plate.
>
> But please, first cut the whining.  It's just childish.
>
>


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