Okay, so if we're looking for a list of simple tasks to train ourselves, PR list is a good place. At least I've learned something today (mandatory whine : why did we have to wait the 17th post to see this list mentioned ?).
On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 31.10-08:40, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >[ ... ] > >> > Yeah, right. > >[ ... ] > >> I don't understand. Is newbies learning new things a waste to you? Do > >> you think they won't really learn anything unless the patch is > >> approved? Or will the patches not be subject to peer review? Or are > >> you worried at who would pass for peer review getting overwhelmed by a > >> huge volume of poor quality patches? > > > >and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the > >possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most > >significant barrier to encouraging new/young developers. > > Yes, it is a significant problem that we won't hand-hold whiners who > could by now be digging for things to fix. There are hundreds of ways > to self-motivate, but instead we get whine whine whine. > > We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from > outsiders. That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do > more than whine whine whine. > > Hey, don't blame us if many of you guys are lazy whiners. > > STOP telling us that we need to do more than we already do. > > If you want to be more involved, _you've_ got to step up to the plate. > > But please, first cut the whining. It's just childish. > > -- Vincent GROSS "GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions." --Doug Gwyn (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards)