On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote:

> > The security benefits are at the application level, *NOT* at the OS level.
>
> What hogwash.
>
> The security benefits are at the "ability to buy a steak for dinner"
> level.
>
Nah, I like steak, I hate enterprise computing.

> You've already made the decision to decrease security by
> de-compartmentalizing onto one physical box, so you are just thrilled
> with the ability to decrease security more by de-compartmentalizing
> the software further.
>
Quite the opposite!! A VM provides a safe, sane, decently
compartmentalized way to run a specific application domain. It's obvious
we have different viewpoints, but both are equally valid - your's from the
OS, mine from the application.

        Lee

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