On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 12:07 +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: > I disagree. This is not true from a 'user perspective' at all. Unless > a user is totally ignorant - you don't expect a new building to just > *poof* out of thin air and have it ready for use the same moment ? > Construction takes time. Careful and good construction takes more > time.
I disagree too here :) It's not about ignorance, it's about requirements. Let's pretend I am a user of OS L, I get fed up with L and want to try out OS O, which seems to be really cool, has nice features, etc. If L has feature W and O doesn't and feature W is essential for me to accomplish my computing tasks *today*, I can't switch to O. (Letters obviously picked at random.) If the user question is: Is feature WPA available on OpenBSD right now? The answer is: No. This is what the original poster asked for. Some of the pointers given in this thread state WPA may be years away from now, so the answer may be 'No, but some work has been done and WPA will probably be supported in the not too distant future. If you are able to you could contribute in some way to speed up things.', but this is essentially the same thing from our user point of view. Sure I am not following source changes regularly, I don't believe this is a requirement to just use the system. > I think quality is high priority. At least, that's the reason why I > use OpenBSD. Features will be done when they're done by people who are > interested in them that have both the skills and the time to make it > work. I'm not whining about missing features or screaming for ice cream. I use OpenBSD too for the same reasons, buy CDs and am perfectly fine with the quality/time trade off. Actually I think OpenBSD fits my idea of "user friendly" much better than a lot of other advertised as friendly OSes. It has very nice features, it has a coherent look and feel, documentation is great, behavior is predictable and sane. I am not asking about specific features to be implemented, or saying OpenBSD sucks because does not support WPA. Just read the original post again: >I understand that both protocols WEP and WAP/WAP2 >are not really secure and that the way to go is to use OpenVPN but the >university where I work has WAP/WAP2 wireless network for general >purposes and I would like to be able to use laptop running OpenBSD >on the campus. This is not a shades-of-gray philosophical-issue question. This is a black-and-white yes-or-no one, unless you consider convincing the campus network admins to switch to WEP a possibility. I understand the point you are trying to make and I think I agree on the philosophical principles, we just look at it from different angles. ciao Luca
