> From: "J.C. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:07:46 -0700 > > On Wednesday 08 August 2007, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: > > jc, > > > > now that i have a bit of "hobby" funds, i am accumulating other > > architectures that run openbsd and am interested in having an hppa > > machine. got any advice on a good one to acquire? leads on where to > > acquire them and for how much would also be welcome since they don't > > exactly pop up all over the place when googling. > > > > best regards, > > jake
Jake, Robert, > Hi Jake, > > Mark Kettenis is a better person to ask and I've cc'd him. Also, folks > on the lists might be curious about the same thing (I hope you don't > mind, and yes, like an idiot I previously posted my own off-list > message to the lists). Yeah, that had me a bit confused ;). > None the less, you're query is missing necessary details, namely > your system/location requirements and acceptable cost level. Some > PARISC machines are extremely expensive. But since HP has stopped development of PA-RISC in favour of Itanium, people are throwing out boxes, so there may be some excellent bargains around. > The one machine that I actually have in use is my C3600, mainly because > it's in a usable location and already setup. The C35xx, C36xx and C37xx > systems are great general-purpose workstations. The bigger dual > processor systems of the J5xxx J6xxx and J7xxx classes are humongous > beasts. Just the shipping costs for getting the J5000 to Theo was a few > hundred dollars, similarly my J5600 sits unused on a low shelf these > days mainly because I have no way to move it with my hands as messed up > as they are. Actually, while the J5x00 and J7x500 are humongous beasts, the J6xxx machines are 2U machines that can be racked or used as a workstation. These are most defenitely the machines to look for, especially the J6700 and J6750. The Bxxxx and Cxxxx come in a fairly large mini-tower case. They have somewhat more room for expansion. Again the C3700 and C3750 are tha fastest machines here. > > Another issue (particularly with OpenBSD) is 64bit support, multi-core > support, and of course, multi-processor support. Whether or not it > actually matters depends on your uses/application. > > At the moment, I have the following PARISC systems here: > > 700 Apollo > 715/100 > 715/100XC > C110 (2) > C240 > C3600 > J5600 > > I believe I also still have the original "snake" here as well (the first > PARISC box) but if it's here, then buried under other systems in the > stacks. If it's not here, then I think I either sent it to mickey@ or > possibly I sold it... -it was a very old and interesting machine. > > The sad part is I'm currently not allowed to lift anything over 5 pounds > (2KG) and that's a recent improvement over a few months ago when I > could not even hold a book. Moving systems from the stacks to the work > bench is just not possible. -And yes, miod@ (correctly and politely) > laughed at me for not keeping everything in a usable configuration when > he saw the pictures. Sorry to hear that. Anyway, the C110's now run nicely again and the Fast-Wide SCSI works on them. All the other ones have been tested recently too, so leave them on that stack for now. I hope your physical condition continues to improveme, such that you can plan with them again in the not too distant future. Cheers, Mark
