Marcos Laufer wrote:
When i post a message on the OpenBSD misc list it is because one
of two reasons:
Mostly one looks like.
1) I want to report an error i found while testing OpenBSD, and by
reporting it i might be helping the project, somebody might be able
to fix it and the OS grows.
2) I could be asking for help to the OpenBSD users, as it was this case.
I know this was not an OpenBSD or MySQL problem, but a
configuration problem , and maybe some other OpenBSD user might
have already been there and willing to help other OpenBSD users to
work things out.
And you got a lots of help from many. Just for fun however, I looked to
see how many times you actually help or reply, versus how many times you
actually started a tread asking for help, or provided not helpful
feedback but added to complains:
http://marc.info/?a=114902411300001&r=1&w=2
You do as you see fit, but doesn't look to me a lots of help, but mostly
request. So, take, but gave back???? I am not saying I help as much as
many on this list, some are very, very helpful, but I do my share when I
know the answer, or can help anyway.
If you are an OpenBSD developer then i must tell you that i understand
your 'I could tell you what to do to fix it, but then you wouldn't learn
from it' attitude .
It's logic to think that developers want users to learn how to handle the OS
and how to properly use it.
If you are not an OpenBSD developer, but an OpenBSD user instead ,
then i must tell you that your 'I could tell you what to do to fix it, but
then you wouldn't learn from it' attitude just sucks.
I was asking for help, i mentioned that this was a production
server with 100 databases on it and i was urged to solve
it fast. That's why i asked help to other OpenBSD users who might have
suffered this problem on a production server and needed to solve it fast.
But i will take a shot and assume you are just another OpenBSD user, just
like me and many others looking for help in this list .
So , Daniel consider this : Next time i ask for help on this list , my post
won't be meant to be answered by you , i now know that you don't have a
helping community spirit but a 'bofh' attitude instead probably due to a
wannabeadeveloper feeling. If you want to help a user to solve his problems
that's just fine, but to talk other users in that tone, to me for example,
i won't allow it.
You got many replies to help you and tell you exactly where to look.
How can it be more specific then that?
"You get the error #9 that is exactly explain there and instructions on
how to address that is provided as well."
In short your calls wasn't use properly. The rest is for you to find why
in your case.
Your problem was as you explain it "to a modification on the
mysqld_safe script", so instead of complaining to me, or others for help
we extended to you and pointed you where the problem was, may be you
should kick the head of the admin that actually did something very
stupid here in the first place by changing application script instead of
doing a properly done setup!
In the end, it still stand. The error was with not using the class
properly, period.
I said that it's important to learn from it, then you just learn that
changing scripts to fix an issue quickly instead of doing the right
thing will bit you in the future.
Granted as you said it wasn't you, so you got stuck by it, so be it. But
don't get upset at me for helping you as no one could have told you that
the problem was in the script changed, but that your setup simply didn't
use the class properly and that's what the problem was. Up to you to
find out why in your setup.
Even in the same document I explain how to test the exact error you got,
error #9 by doing this:
mysqlcheck -m -A -uYourUsers -pYourPassword
If you get the error #9, then you simply don't use that class properly.
I think I provided you as much help as I could possibly have done in
this instance. It's pretty obvious.
Get upset to the one that did this stupid thing and learn from it.
In the end, you can be upset, but still the document that you read and
work with still I wrote it and it help you anyway. So, you can say what
ever you want, I still helped you, even if you don't like it.
But if that make you fell better and relieve your frustrations, sure you
can get upset at me. I have a pretty think skin and seen way worst as well.
Learn to get upset at the right people.
So, you are welcome!
Best,
Daniel
