thus Mark Reitblatt spake:
On 5/19/07, Chris Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
>
> Yeah, right. Those of us looking from the outside do not have such
> simplistic views of the US, sorry.
>
> But our viewpoint is not purely about OpenBSD as open source. We
> make our code available for people to use in a commercial setting,
> so we must meet a higher standard.
>
> As the only completely operating system focused on staying outside the
> realm of US crypto export POLICY, we don't intend to change our
> approach.
>
>
How does current US law/policy affect someone traveling with OpenBSD? Is
having OpenBSD on my laptop a problem? Does downloading in the US from a
server outside the US solve travel problems? Is carrying OpenBSD on cd's
also a problem? I will soon be traveling and want to avoid problems.
You fall under section 740.14 of the EAR. Excepting travel to one of
the prohibited countries (illegal for a US citizen anyways), you are
ok if it is under "personal ownership" and in "usual and reasonable
quantities". IOW, you have nothing to worry about. Unless of course
you are unwilling to restrict yourself to current US policy, in which
case you'd better not bring any computer HW, cell phone, or "advanced"
electronic device at all. After all, it might become restricted in the
unforeseeable future.
Nobody cares about 'laws', regardless of location. However, especially
the US gives a shit about 'law', see 'human rights' and all this nonsense.
Thanks for keeping OpenBSD clean from US control.
If I understand the laws correctly, what I propose would not change
OpenBSD's freedom from US control.
You think that the US is a stable region, hm? LOL Have a look in some
history books and draw your conclusions; the US (among others) is just
one step away from a very big bang.
As an American
citizen, I am absolutely terrified with the Fascist direction my country
is headed.
Then do something about it. It's a democracy for a reason.
The US? DEMOCRACY? ROTFL
Quoting from an email I recently wrote>
> 'In classic terms, fascism is defined by five characteristics of
> governance:
>
> * nationalist aggression;
>
> * fusing of the state with corporate interests;
>
> * single party rule;
>
> * the suppression of civil liberties;
>
> * pervasive propaganda.
>
> All of these inhered in the Italian, German, and
> Japanese governments of the 1930s and '40s. All of them would have to
> be present before the label "fascism" could legitimately be applied to
> a modern regime.'
So, looking at the definition of fascism, the US is a fascist country,
as almost any other of the 'free, democratic, peaceful western countries'.
I think OpenBSD would have problems in the near future if it became
entangled with US cryptography laws.
I'm sure that you base this assumption on specific, relevant court
cases/laws effective since source code received protected speech
status? Or just the same sort of gut feeling that tells people that
evolution isn't true?
Let's relocate OpenBSD's servers to Baghdad city as this is the most
democratic place on earth after the US bombed^Wled it there.
(The sarcasm in this eMail is for free.)
