On 5/11/07, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >Makes me think some sort of OS has to be present before using cu.  I
> have a
> > >couple of sparc machines with no monitor/OS that I would love to throw
> an
> > >OS
> > >on..
> > >
> > >Zach
> >
> > sure you can, but the hardware boot ROM has to support it.  I ran most
> of
> > my non-intel systems headless for years.  If you're running i386/amd64
> > boxes a lot have a BIOS setting called console "redirection" or
> something
> > similar.  While it works it's no where near as friendly as the non-intel
> > workstation/server ROM monitors.  However as more and more intel/amd
> boxes
> > showed up in lights out data centers the server manufactures started
> > supporting real remote management solutions.
> >
>
>        Typically for OpenBSD, you need to set the PC bios on an i386
> machine to do console redirection at 9600 baud (8N1) until the OS boots
> and *NOT* do it afterwards. This is because if it does it afterwards then
> typically the bios eats com0 and you can't use it from OpenBSD for
> a real serial tty.
>
>        The trick is finding the right settings in the stupid bios. and
> of course since PC bios's are based on 15 years of programming
> by monkeys with typewriters it can be a bit of an effort sometimes,
> assuming
> your bios supports it, and it works.
>
>        we run most of our i386 boxen here headless with serial consoles.
> we either connect direct with tip/cu, or we run conserver from ports,
> which is a wonderful thing.
>
>        -Bob
>
>
Fortunately this is a sparc machine, so I do not believe I will need to
manually set the BIOS.  At least I hope not.   When you mentioned setting
the BIOS on an i386 to do a redirection, this makes me think that this
initial step is not a headless operation.  My goal is to do the entire
install etc. headless (since I am without a monitor, but have access to a
bsd laptop + serial).

I will be playing around with this tonight so I should know more soon.

Bob, Diana, and Stuart -- Thanks for the great responses, its exactly what I
needed.

Zach

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