On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:16, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> This is an example of us trying to talk to a vendor and
> being totally shut down. Not only did they license the PCI express
> and MAC portions, but they don't want to help us to support their
> products at all. No information, no people to talk to, nothing.

The PCI Express was licensed from Synopsis:
http://www.synopsys.com/products/success/agere_dwss.pdf

I believe the MAC is *might* be licensed from SiS but I'm just guessing 
on that one.

We all know the lack of help from Richard Ubowski means he is just 
covering his ass due to the IP/NDA issues involved. He probably doesn't 
have the authority to release the docs and by ignoring the requests, he 
hopes the problem will just go away...

Jonathan took the logical/reasonable approach of contacting the people 
involved with the working on the particular product in order to get the 
required docs. -And what he got was the typical run-around.

I'll try the opposite illogical/unreasonable aproach, namely, start at 
the top and work down. I'll try to contact Rick Clemmer, the Agere CEO, 
to see what he has to say about prefering lost sales to open docs...

All the rest of you out there in misc@ land are free to pick an aproach 
and join the fray. Just remember, executives and board members are only 
human beings but they *especially* want to know what keeps us from 
buying their products...

http://www.agere.com/company/team.html
http://www.agere.com/company/board.html

It doesn't hurt to try...

Kind Regards,
JCR

p.s. I sure hope someone records Jonathan's lecture at OpenCon for those 
of us who can't make it to Venice.

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