"Martin Schrvder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2006/10/6, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Its complete and utter nonsense actually.  The linux kernel is used in
> > closed source products all the time, it has no effect there just like it
> 
> Please show us one example of a closed source Linux device.

They are all over the place, tons of random little devices are running
some form of linux.  Very few seem to be actually obeying all the rules
of the GPL.  Half of the devices Dlink ships for instance.

> On the contrary closed source Linux systems have been forced (even in
> court) to deliver the sources. This is impossible with BSD.

No, some have been pressured with the threat of court, and sorta gave
in.  But they still keep portions closed, they just put up the source
for the kernel, which you could already get anyways.  They still keep
drivers secret little blobs.  Dlink has agreed to C&D because of the
courts in Germany, but they have not opened up the source to the device
in question.

Nobody can be forced to "deliver the sources", GPL or BSD.  At best they
can be forced to C&D, and pay court costs.  They can *choose* to GPL
their code instead if they prefer that option.  If the GPL has helped out
linux so much by forcing companies to open up their code, then please
feel free to point out what code that is.  IBM and SGI may have GPLed
a couple filesystems, but they were not forced to, and linux was already
plenty popular by then.

Adam

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