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Hi Ingo,

Ingo Schwarze wrote:

> I doubt the project is worth the effort at all.
> Whatever numbers might result will be heavily biased.
Of course it's biased. It's statistics of running *BSD systems. How
could that possibly not biased?!

> BSDstats is typical bloatware that lots of OpenBSD
> users will hate (not all, mind you, but many more than
> e.g. in Linuxland).
Why could bsdstats be bloatware? It's a simple shellscript, telling a
remote Server "Hej, I'm an OpenBSD 3.9 on i386. Gooy Bye".
Bloatware is something different... bsdstats could be bloatware if it
would be a huge pile of python scripts ;)
It's only shell...

> 
> Besides, the OpenBSD community tends to just not care
> about marketing.  OpenBSD is about correctness, simplicity,
> freedom and security.  Popularity is *not* among the
But OpenBSD needs funding too. And popularity is one instrument of a
whole lot to get funds. Keep that in mind.

> project goals.  Most of the developers work on it because
> they need good code themselves - and certainly not in
> order to become famous.
While that is true, bsdstats is not about being famous.

> 
> Thus, i should expect the following attitude from typical
> OpenBSD users: A software for measuring popularity?  How
It's your attitude!

> boring.  What, it will even run cron scripts and open
> network connections?  No way on my machine...
uuuhhh... Security Issues, hm?
Yeah, sure. Now go on and disable your sshd, as it's also opening a
network connection. Better unplug your ethernet cable too (and of course
disable your wireless card) *SCNR*

Get Real!

./Marian

PS.: It's been quite a while since I was reading that much crap in one
eMail.
If all you said is your opinion, well, that's okay. If you tend to talk
for others, and you did, than please stop that.
Yes, I'm an OpenBSD user (but also a FreeBSD user and at work a Linux
user too).
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